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  TMF hit the target below the line on this one.  In other words, I agree completely.  The complaint is stupid and baseless.  Learn to aim and hit what you aim at.   Thread closed.

To be fair, I heard this kid took performance enhancing supplements to achieve his record.  I think maybe the best solution to this problem is to "Tyler-proof" the contest by introducing certain criteria to make the challenge more "fair".  If he still continues to win the contest we launch an investigation into whether he took supplements to aid his accomplishment, such as ginkoba to help with concentration or candybars to keep him energized and awake.  Once we prove his guilt with our witch hu-- er, investigation, we can strip him of his previous titles and make him a pariah in the reading community.  Then we can retroactively award 1st place to all the runners up in the previous competitions, regardless of what means they used to achieve their status; even if they also used ginkoba and candy bars.... well, because we just don't like it when it's the same person winning.   Making things fair is awesome; I love me some fair.

Might I suggest... Great thing is they can be had on the cheap, cheaper than a Jeep anyways. :D

There's no doubt he's made some choice that I'm not likely to duplicate, but that doesn't negate or justify the .gov's abuse of powers, in my humble opinion. I've known of more than a few people who've pissed me off by doing something I'd consider stupid, but I wouldn't want the .gov resorting to the same shady tactics that could possibly be used against me for little more than doing something that someone else doesn't agree with. They have too much power as it is, and being OK with the abuse of said power for any reason should never be acceptable, in my humble opinion.

I'm sure they are tired of him, but I'm not fond of the .gov flexing their muscle to prove a point, all while it appears he didn't break any laws.

  MSNBC said it was a .223 military grade high capacity assault revolver.

  The MAJOR uprising will be in all of those Del Webb retirement communities across the South.    You know the ones.  Its the folks with the old, rusty Michigan front plates still on their cars, hogging all of the handicap parking spots at WalMart, and always telling us southern hicks how they did it up North.  :ugh:      

I'm all in.

Runs on grass and the occasional carrot

The price is low enough that we need to work through how we're going to post it.   To the earlier thread, when it comes time for this one to go, we'll ask people to commit firmly at that time.

I see no reason to be pessimistic about Carr's chances to unseat that worthless RINO Alexander (in fact, Alexander is so worthless I don't even think he deserves the honor of being called a RINO; he's really just a progressive who wants to call himself a Republican).   The main hurdle Carr has to overcome right now is money and THAT can be taken care of if people just donate to his campaign...lot's of folks on this board have been complaining about Alexander for years; well, now it's time to put your money where your complaints have been...I don't care if its' $1, $5 or $5,000...it all helps.   I'll at least be donating $$$ by the end of the week and probably throughout the campaign and maybe try to find a way to help physically with his campaign...if you want Alexander out of there then you should do the same.

I'm no more a fan of lawyers than anyone else, but going to court without one is like going to a gunfight unarmed, naked and with a big "shoot me first" sign around your neck.

  If there was a book it would be called 50 Shades of Stupid.

Yankees. Swear to God, there is something wrong with them.

are you reffering to yourself here?   I dont think they'll miss you one bit.  Maybe they wont have to repair their system either.  You are being awful beligerant for someone who signed an agreement before entering the range.  You knew the agreement and failed to hold up your end.  Plus they are a paying sponser of TGO, they deserve a little respect.  If you dont agree with the $8, fine, shoot somewhere else, but your are crying over something that you admitadly did.  its like complaining about a speeding ticket by saying the speed limit was too low.  You kew the rules

I highly recommend Falcon too. I need to buy more, but new truck tires and some other bills take precedence over my reloading hobby....

You know what would have prevented this, if he was in prison for the felony he plead guilty to in march of this year.  He was arrested for terroristic threats in march of this year, negotiated a plea and sentence to 3 years probation.

If we are going the naturally fueled route then I'll be doing a lot of movement on Big John. Our plan is to bug in, but being able to move heavy loads like water, fire wood, large amounts of gear or food via horsepower will be invaluable. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

People will spend more money if you only show them the way...

I'm riding the mule in the farm next door ;)

With a couple of rounds of ammo you will be sighted in any way , I've never spent the money on one .

They won't allow me to serve on any juries anymore. Seems they don't like constant high-fiving & shouts of boooooyaahhh! Interupting the court proceedings *shrug*.

Man, this thread is making me jones for some good barbecue and now I am feeling the need to 'fight back'. I am off from work on Thursday and Friday (as well as my normal Saturday and Sunday) of next week. I considered going camping but then realized that it will be Labor Day weekend. I don't want to be within ten miles of the campgrounds on Labor Day weekend even if I thought I could find a spot. I am now thinking that firing the smoker would be a good plan. Now I just need to decide if I want to smoke pork ribs: Chicken breasts: Pork loin: Pork butt: A beef brisket: Or even some lamb ribs (honestly, these tasted great but - as you might expect - got a little dry) : Whatever I do will get one or another of the dry rubs I have come up with over the years but I still have to decide whether to just make one of my homemade sauces or go ahead and make two or three, different ones: Decisions, decisions.

At this point, they are merely flexing their authority. This case is a waste of time, and I'm certain the judge and DA know it. Wasting time and money just to prove a point. They are no better than he is.

That's why so many law enforcement agencies have adopted the XD line..... :whistle:

        I guess Lenny is gonna find out for us.  See, he is good for something!   The tax thing seems like a technicality though, and I think this whole thing was to get them in a catch-22, where they could arrest him for having a prohibited firearm, but it was not a prohibited firearm based on documentation he isn't required to show them, so they could not determine that the firearm was legal.  I mean, imagine tooling around with a .50 cal machine gun on your jeep and then telling the cop to pound sand when he asks for your FA paperwork on it.  I mean, I guess in a perfect system we wouldn't need such silly things as tax stamps in the first place, but we do and it is generally not a good idea to pick a fight with a cop using technicalities.

91 ram and a 07 Honda element. I'm taking a lot of stuff... sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee

This guy could save a lot of time if he would just go set money on fire and subject himself to a violent gang rape.  Oh well, I guess he'll have to experience the extended version.

    Not bashing by any means but I fully agree with robtattoo.   A 700 yard ethical shot requires a high degree of certainty which is not the norm for any joe-bag-of-donuts shooter like myself.   A 300 yard shot is a quick clean kill with meat in the cooler and a BIG proud smile.  I have found over the years that losing a deer from a poorly placed shot is very upsetting.  I don't like that feeling and as you can tell, I don't want any of you to feel that either.  Just saying, be cautious with the long shots.  They are not for everyone.

Easy solution. Open your own range. Good target systems are only 10k or so per lane, plus backstop material at another 5k+ a lane. And since you don't mind people shooting high add another few thousand to expand your backstop higher. Generally for a mere 15-25k a lane you can make your own rules. I really hate listening to people whine about a charge that they new about and disregarded anyway. If you are unable to shoot below the line then either move the target closer or aim lower. Seems pretty easy to me. I would rather shoot at a clean well cared for range that had strict rules to keep it that way than at some of these poorly ventilated basement dumps that don't. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Take it with a grain of salt. I'm being honest when I say that I've fired more rounds through my issued M4s than 99% of the military. I have never had a malfunction caused by anything other than magazine failure, bolt breakage or a manufactured malfunction. If the weapon is properly maintained it will fire more ammo than you can carry. I've put thousands of rounds through one in a single day without relubing. It will work. The reason you see reports of widespread malfunction is due to operator error. I kid you not. Our military sucks when it comes to mentoring younger Servicemembers. For example, the story of Jessica Lynch's convoy has at least two of the weapons failing. I've seen more M16s fail than I can count. There is always a common denominator; no lube, and where there should be live there is dust... Lots of it. The problem is crappy NCOs not doing proper PCIs on their Soldiers. I'll use the M2 .50 cal as an example. It works great. I've used dozens of them over my military career. I've only come across one that had issues; it was a refurbish that was fresh. After a few thousand rounds it worked fine. All the rest worked so long as you knew how to properly head space and time it. Unfortunately, I see MOST convoys pull up to a test fire berm and experience multiple jams, because all they did was screw a barrel on, back off two and call it good. Then they call it a piece of 100 year old junk because it doesn't work. It does work. It's the operator that needs to be sent back to the assembly line. I get a little emotional about this one, because I know the truth and it pisses me off. It makes me mad that there are so many piss poor Soldiers and NCOs out there. When I hear a Servicemember who complains about his M16 (if it was issued after 1970, or whenever they fixed the issue with the chamber and the ammo) it tells me they were a substandard Soldier that did not properly maintain his equipment.

Better call Saul

he has knowledge and skill but I really doubt how much surviving he does on that show.  There are youtube vid's some of you may allow yourself to watch ;) that show him surviving from a reverse angle as his camera and tourists and vehicles are clearly visible just yards away.   Survivorman would kick his ass in a survival showdown.

There. I fixed it for ya.   I know this won't be popular with some, but it would have been driven into the ground had the races been reversed. I've yet to hear or see a news story even mention that fact in passing. I know it was made painfully clear the ethnicity of Treyvon Martin and Ronald Zimmerman.   Anybody else notice that? Just an oversight I'm sure.

The company is top notch. If you are planning to order more guys try to do it before the end of the month. After August they are having to increase prices to keep up with supplier cost. Unfortunately everything is getting more expensive. They are offering bulk packs now to cut down on shipping cost for several calibers/grains. Just a little info for you.

This one is bona fide and fully vetted by TGO staff.

Must be good to be away from Ft. Hood where you can't carry a gun to protect yourself. Welcome to Tennessee. Years ago we sent a few folks to Texas to help them out...glad to see that Texas is sending some back.

Thank you. This sounds like very sound advice. Thank you also for taking pride in your profession and following the law you are charged with enforcing. I had an old friend that was LE and he told me that there was never a need for a cop to be crooked or break the law, the criminals will get caught in due time and there are enough true bad guys that he didn't have to make one out of everyone he came in contact with.

On one hand, I can see being sort of bent (at myself mainly) about 8 bucks for a hole in cardboard.  On the other hand, I'd consider myself lucky that all I had to pay was 8 bucks a hole.  I'd come out of there thinking I was super lucky and didn't hit something way more expensive.  I've never shot inside before because I can go outside in my yard and shoot all I want so I would look at it this way if I did go somewhere to shoot.  I was brought up by my parents to know that it's their house and while your there, you follow their rules and if you break something, you have the obligation to make it right, accident or not.

VLTOR made some receivers from what I've read.  Didn't FN knock out some barrels?   Either way, I think now or the next couple months is THE time to pick one up.  I would grab a Steyr if it were my money.

You need to buy ammo at Charlotte Pike Walmart in case you have to fight your way back out. Scary. Glad you made it out unscathed. :)

Did you not believe them when they said they would charge you for shooting above the line? Your outrage makes no sense. If you so vehemently disagreed with the policy then you should have never shot there in the first place. To get mad about a charge that you knew would be made is ridiculous. Maybe, I dunno, you should have shot below the line like they told you.

  FTFY.      Disclaimer: The above post was edited by me, and was not Nacho Daddy's original post. If I turn up missing, you know Robert got pissed at me again, and left me bleeding in a ditch somewhere  :rofl:

I would also bug in but to get home unless there is an emp I'll be using my 2001 Tacoma with 3" lift and 285/75r16 tires and customer sliders and 4.30 gears. If an emp happens I still have my 69 jeep cj6

Well Im bugging in, but for post collapse movements I'll mostly be using my 4x4 2000 Dodge Dakota. For any offroad excursions and quick movements and runs Ill be using this. VW rail, bus trans. Light, fast and tough Tapatalk ate my spelling.

I have zero intentions of going anywhere. Anyone come to MY place and try to take something, even if I have plenty, will be met with an overwhelming amount of force.   Bugging in has some real advantages and if I lived in a city I would, without a doubt, stay put. First is you already have everything you are going to have without the need to transport it to a new location. You can call for help from those around you while in a remote location you cannot call for help. Another big advantage is you know the area. You also know who friend and who foe is or at least have a good idea. Travelling exposes you to more dangers. It is also easier to defend a building or high rise than a tent in the woods.Those buildings are going to protect you from the elements and be easier to keep warm in and survive in for the average person especially those used to living in the city. Food, at least initially, will be easier to come by in the cities as well as potable water. There are literally a few weeks worth of potable water in your water heater and toilet bowls and that is if you don't ration. With rain gutters, collecting water is much easier too. And as disgusting as it might sound cities have tons of rodents that can be harvested for food. If any type of relief or supplies is handed out it is going to be in the population centers first. The average person is going to have a far easier time surviving in the city than in the "hills".  

My 4runner with 1919a4 pentle mount would probally do the trick. :rofl: [URL=http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keatonspencer/media/64631_1282722207497_3637864_n_zps8ec7fd69.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keatonspencer/media/120824_002_zpsc28527b7.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keatonspencer/media/IMG_3477_zps54e980ba.jpg.html][/URL]

Couple thoughts on this one.  First is theres very little chance of me bugging out even though i live in a urban area the dangers of bugging out are greater than staying put.  Second is that your gonna use whatever you have available.  If your only car is a 78 pointo then thats your bug out vehicle.  For me it will be a 2003 GMC sierra HD

I'm totally a newbie and I think it will work ... Its a 9.5 vs 12 but it's on sale http://www.midwayusa.com/product/395479/daniel-defense-m4-95-fsp-free-float-tube-handguard-quad-rail-ar-15-extended-carbine-length-aluminum-black