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They should all die exactly the same way their victims did, be resuscitated and the process repeated.  Over and over until their CNS or cardiopulmonary system can no longer sustain life.  And then... life support, and repeat.   When there's nothing remotely resembling a human form left, Hell can have them.

  I don't blame the entire black community but the fact remains that there are certain societal problems... certain ideologies... within it that allow subhuman behavior like this to fester in people's minds until thoughts eventually become actions, and the entire black community at large allows it to persist.   You only have to take a listen to some of the more popular rap music from the past 20 years or so to get a glimpse into the things that are important within the vast majority of the black community.  Violence, money, intimidation, retaliation... just to name a few of the things glorified.   Why hasn't the black community ostracized those who glorify these things to the point that a clear message is sent that those things aren't guiding principles by which decent people live?  All I ever hear are occasional remarks against heinous activities by a few community leaders, celebrities and media darlings... and then it's back to the old system of "That's life on the streets.  You can't judge if you don't live in the hood."   Politically correct statement?  #### no it isn't.  But brutally raping and then massacring two people like these animals did isn't politically correct either, now is it?

In all seriousness, the thing that really ticks me off is that I am all the time hearing of the barbarism that was endured by black people by the KKK and the like before the civil rights period.  That stuff happened 50 years ago and longer, and it is still shoved in my face every year.  Granted, there was unimaginable brutality, and may those that participated in such action get their just desserts in the end.     In this case we have the same degree of brutality.  What did we hear from the media, so-called civil rights leaders, and self-anointed black leaders?  I remember hearing very little from the national news media, and pretty much nothing from the other two groups I listed.  The double standard makes me want to vomit.

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

  Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing today. I'm positive there will be people here trying to convince me to vote for whatever D bag wins the primary. 

I'm hell around my 1/3 acre estate with an electric Craftsman chainsaw.  :D

  Hell, when I was about their age I was attending UTK and lived with my grandmother at her house due to it being convenient to campus.  She lived on East Fifth Avenue (which runs parallel to Magnolia.)  Typical story of someone who had moved into a nice neighborhood only to see it go downhill over the years.  There was more than one drive-by shooting on a house that was across the street and one house down from my grandmother's during the time I lived there (the mother of a known gang member owned the house and lived there - the drive-bys were probably attempts to kill him when he was visiting her.)  That may be a place that young, white kids 'shouldn't go', too but I lived there for several years.  Having lived in that part of town and knowing (from first hand experience) the attitude that SOME of the black residents have regarding white people (I say SOME because we had black neighbors who were among the best people I have known and the best neighbors we could have asked for), I say that the Christian/Newsom murders were without a doubt hate crimes (as if anyone ever rapes, tortures and butchers someone because they just like them so darned much.)

I looked into it quite a bit, but ended up going with Chip Cain to do mine (as have many others on TGO).  With the money I was spending on these items and the reason I was doing it (having family be able to be in possession of my NFA Items), the extra cost and piece of mind was worth well more than the little I would have saved over the long run.  I just didn't want to "hope" it was right, I wanted to "know" it was right.   Not saying these wouldn't hold up legally, but I wasn't willing to be the test case.

  I think one of the real problems is that you have Sharpton, Jackson, the NAACP, etc. struggling to stay relevant, and the black community still viewing them as leaders. Then, you have King Barry and his crew playing it for political reasons. The "hate crime" laws need to be applied fairly or repealed. That won't happen until somebody takes up the cause and pushes it real hard.   As with all Obama politics, lots of useful idiots helping him make things worse.

we should let the whole place fall.  

Stories like this prove how racist the media is. The irony is that we're the ones labeled as racist, although we don't blame the entirety of the black community for the actions of the few, however, had the races been reversed it would have been used as proof at how racist the white community is.

Chris was a friend of mine, and once my bike mechanic..........A gentle, kind young man.

Race definitely played a role, as well as the deceased being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Reality is, there are places young white kids shouldn't go. But the media would lead you to believe only black people are targeted after dark.

  I've got lots of them.  The vast majority are profanity.  Some of them involve a wood chipper.

First, Thank You for your Service, mse9.   Secondly, I really agree with your assessment of this situation. It's a terrible shame that the values that motivated and created this country are being so thoroughly cast aside by our leadership, both civilian and military.   I really wish I didn't see the writing on the wall, but it's getting clearer by the minute.   We are on the verge of a great fall, and I really don't see very much likelihood of averting it. 

I'd like to see them turned over to Gary Christian.

I went to the local Walmart here in Greeneville to buy a shotgun the other day and they told me that it was going to be 24 hour wait because of some terrorist red flag policy that the government was under. I told him that was bull crap and that I would just buy it somewhere else. Now that didn't hurt his feelings, but its the principal of the matter. If you are going to delay my transaction don't give me some lame excuse, man up and tell me why you are doing it. Luckily for me I went right down the road and got a better deal on a upgraded shotgun and got it order in a timely manner. I would rather wait three days because someone had to order a gun than wait a day because your store is lazy and wants to give out crap excuses. 

How long has it been, 6 years, finally some national attention to a horrific Knoxville crime:   http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/13/the-gruesome-story-of-a-murdered-tennessee-couple-you-may-have-never-heard-about-but-that-you-will-never-forget/

Lord knows we need it, eh? Atlantic storm season starting. Looks like will be quite damp all over the SE by next weekend.   /end good news   - OS

  GGC is great. I should go there one day :)

Hey, I played on the Cas Walker show a few times when I was in elementary school. Not famous. :-(

SIG 2/938. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2

  Too quick.  I'd just arrange a Jeffrey Dahmer style death on the inside.  That's about as close as you can get to what they put the victims through.  I hear that prison hits are cheap.

  $100k is small money when you're talking about something like this. I wouldn't even want to guess on insurance costs. Just maintaining that size piece of property and buildings will chew a good sized hole in the profits. Stones River is $100 or so. I would pay the $150 for this range without batting an eye.

  They get even more fragile as the filament burns its way through its useful life. Bright LED's are the best thing that ever happened to flashlights.

Man I hate someone who destroys others property for no good reason, if they have a problem with your wife then they should have confronted her bit obviously they were too cowardice.

      Well...  I just got my wood chipper two days ago, so I have one available. :)   Since the sick bastards like to use chemicals, I would probably take that approach when dealing with them.  I would probably start by soaking their genitalia in a warm 50% sodium hydroxide solution.  The pain would be unbelievable as the caustic slowly saponified their skin.  I could also start with an upside down compressed air can in the ears, or perhaps a few drops of sulfuric acid.  Regardless of how I started, I could assure you one thing, the medieval inquisitions would pale in comparison.

I'll play, but I had to go back a ways, nothing like a good throwing tomahawk. http://videosift.com/video/Johnny-Carson-and-Ed-Ames-The-Famous-Tomahawk-Toss   Good old days of live TV.

why did it take Beck so long to talk about this crime?

Sorry, Lumberjack, but they weren't somewhere young white kids shouldn't go. They were at a condo complex on Washington Pike. This is true. I was confusing the carjacking for the location I the abandoned vehicle. Although some sections of Washington Pike give me pause. I still believe it was racially motivated regardless of what the investigation says.

That's awesome.  I started to get my daughter used to guns by having her around me when I used to clean guns.  She was 3 years old when I started (she's 10 now).   I remember her playing 'cops and robbers' during birthday parties and she'd be the only one with her finger off the trigger when she wasn't intending to shoot. 

  You just gave me a good visual. Balls first. May have to break a few things to get them in the chute.

Jeez Robert, sounds like he's got you there. :rolleyes: Seriously though I hope this thread goes on another 10 pages. I haven't laughed so hard since that 20 something page chick fillet thread on open carry. :rofl: On a more serious note I believe I'm finally (seriously) starting to get the itis's question. It's a rurally such a simple question our superior intellects must not have been able to process it. Luckily I've had a few beers so I think I'm ready. The answer is.... Throwing knives. F*+k guns anyway. Am I right? Guys? Guys? No. The only real answer is a katana. Nothing says I'm a badass unless its a katana. Or a hand turned head basher..... Or maybe a hand forged bowie or 24 lb sledgehammer. Nope definetly a katana in the right hand and a 24 lb hammer in the left. Kinda like a .223 in the right hand and a .50 beowulf in the left. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

   Jeez Robert, sounds like he's got you there. :rolleyes: Seriously though I hope this thread goes on another 10 pages. I haven't laughed so hard since that 20 something page chick fillet thread on open carry. :rofl: On a more serious note I believe I'm finally (seriously) starting to get the itis's question. It's a rurally such a simple question our superior intellects must not have been able to process it. Luckily I've had a few beers so I think I'm ready. The answer is.... Throwing knives. F*+k guns anyway. Am I right? Guys? Guys?

Thanks for the information. It works much better now. I do need to camfer just a little more but all in all not looking like I peeled a banana. Just to throw this out before I post anyone here willing to trade some Hodgdon HS-7 for  imr 4350? I'll be posting in the trade with my other post in the next day or so. Thanks again for the help.

Vontar is coming to Nashvegas looking for beer and fun,,by the end of his 1st night, ( after being on broadway for 6 hours plus) he will:   show up at Voldemorts door to punch him in the suckhole for the rest of us.

  Hang on there. They don't have enough bars to hold all the crooked politicians in Illinios. They're still running the state... promise :)

Yeah, we're using some of them now. Did a F3 yesterday.  Of course they can only be used where photos/prints are not needed.  So dealers, corps, trusts, etc..   www.atfonline.gov/eforms   As of now, per examiner, only thing we're saving is the mailing time but hey every little bit helps.  When you hit the button it's the same as having dropped a forms in the mail and them reaching Martinsburg or Atlanta.   But any movement I think is a positive one!!!

First off, this noncitizen committed a serious felony.  There is no way around that.  I realize it wasn't a violent crime, however it was a felony just the same.  He doesn't respect the laws of our country and doesn't deserve to be a citizen.    Secondly, I think the author confuses deportation as an additional punishment on top of prison time; it isn't.  Being deported is not a punishment.  It is a foreigner losing their privilege to be here.  Is it a "punishment" if you get kicked out of a night club for acting like a fool?  No.  It is simply the night club saying that you have lost the privilege to be there.  These veterans who go on to commit crimes have lost that privilege, same as any other foreigner who comes to our country and does not respect our laws.  I don't see what the conflict here is.   The author, convict and these liberal politicians are making this out to be "not fair" because regular Americans aren't deported when they commit a crime.  I don't see how that is even an argument.  Of course Americans are deported; they're freaking citizens!  Why should we not deport a foreigner who has shown themselves to be criminal trash???  Because they wore a uniform?  Well so did I, so does that put me in a different category than the rest of America if I decide to commit a crime?  WTF?    On another note, as a veteran I've been getting pretty tired of this nonsense I've been seeing over the years of vets being used as pawns in the greater political arena, much in the same way other minority groups are used to generate emotions, manipulate votes and leverage support for whatever BS cause that has nothing to do with the actual people they claim to support.  I don't like it.  Whenever I see a politician trying to be a champion of veteran's rights I want to see what the left hand is doing.

I don't see what one has to with the other.  If you are not a citizen and you come to this country and commit crimes you should be kicked out.  That statement should have no asterik next to it.  I realize that many DO come here and don't do squat, commit crimes and get the revolving door.  I don't think that is excusable either.   What I am left to wonder is how that one guy served in the Marines for 8 years and never got his citizenship.  That doesn't smell right.  I remember seeing low ranking guys with only a few years of service getting their citizenship.  Either this guy has other issues or he was just lazy for not applying and doing the work to get his citizenship.  Either way, I don't care.  F*** him.    He wasn't a US citizen and he committed a felony, which will get you deported.  He knew the rules and he made his choice.  This article is written in a way that I'm supposed to feel bad for him because at some point he was living the American dream in a nice house and running his own business.  That all sounds awesome up until he broke the rules.  I fail to see how everything he did up until he decided to be a drug dealer has anything to do with him being deported.  In fact, I'm willing to bet that this isn't the first time he was involved in such criminal activity.  You don't just wake up one day and decide you're going to be a drug dealer in large amounts of illegal drugs.  He was sentenced to 4 years.  That isn't for a couple baggies of weed.   It is a simple equation:   Non-citizen + felony drug dealing = deportation   Having been in the military does not fit into that equation.  I'm tired of stories where I'm supposed to feel bad for people who are SOLELY responsible for their own woes in life.

I'm so old I remember when you could buy guns at an auto parts store.

Find a good local archery shop, figure ur draw length if you do not know it and go from there. If you are not comfortable with the tool in hand it is worthless. Some newer bows sacrifice comfort and forgivness for speed. Not a goodb trade off in my opinion. I shoot an oldet pse f1 maxxis limited. Practice makesnperdect, even if only at 300 fps. :)

  "Old fashioned way" is a paper 4473 and a phone call. Only waiting period is the time on hold.   - OS

While buying ammo at Wal-Mart tonight there was a sticker near the register that said "no guns allowed" over a gunbuster.    I took it down. Not sure who put it there but it's clearly not Wal-Mart policy.

Elmer Fudd could run for the democrats and win.  They have figured out how to steal win these elections now.  

What I find amusing about all this "free market" support for the few people who are choking off the supply and selling for 5 times the cost, is that many of these people supporting that are the same people I've seen chime in on threads about how evil Walmart is and how they refuse to shop there. Funny when you consider that they are providing some of the lowest prices on .22, but they are still evil, but the ahol that cleans out all the .22 at my store and resells it for 5 times the cost is a hero of the free market.

Even I couldn't hold my nose that tight :)

Then Vote to Tax their weed.

At some point one of these thug "protestors" (rioters) will attack a white person and get shot for it. I'm afraid that's all it's going to take to escalate this to a whole new level. The grandmother in the van had every right to defend herself from assault and get her granddaughter to the hospital. What if she had done so with a gun? There would be a whole new "Justice for (insert thug's name here) campaign. If this BS doesn't simmer down soon, it's going to boil over. I suspect that is what some black "leaders" want to happen.

Kinda reminds me of back when OJ got acquitted in a court of law after killing Nicole and Ronald...remember how we all took to the streets in protest, committing racial hate violence against innocent black folk to show how unjust the "system" was, that let go a person who killed people of another race?  Remember?  No, wait, NOW I remember, that didn't happen!