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Well, took the kiddo for her hunter safety course now that she's 10.  Was this past weekend at Bass Pro and taught by a couple of great instructors.  They were great with kids.    Was a bit worried that a 10 year old's attention span would be challenged by having to sit in class for 3 hours Friday nite and again all day Saturday, but she did just fine and passed with flying colors.  She did get a little upset and had to take a 5 minute break when they showed the dramatized video of the kid getting shot in a hunting accident.  Made her a little woozy.   Nevertheless, she got her head back in the game, scored well on the test, and really made her old man proud when it came time to shoot the .22 in the TWRA portable range.  2 shots at 50 feet(ish) and she puts 'em both through one ragged hole.  TWRA agents and instructors both commented that it was the best shooting of the day!

Great news out of New York. Judge rules that the NYPD's "Stop & Frisk" policy is unconstitutional. Nice to see this blatant violation of the 4th Amendment brought to an end. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/nyregion/stop-and-frisk-practice-violated-rights-judge-rules.html

Only as long as we can leave your friends behind. Because your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance, then they're no friends of mine.

    Reading comprehension is important.   There was one cop, and one cabbie.   The cabbie was quoted, not the cop.   I have purposely stayed out of this discussion. A very close friend of mine who was a cop was struck and killed by a car less than a month ago on an interstate when responding to a call.   I personally think there are a lot of folks in this thread that are talking out of their asses from the comfort of their chairs at home.   Pretty easy to do.   There was nothing wrong with what I read in the article, just a lot of folks here that want to get riled up over nothing.       Where were the parents?   Why weren't they there if their child had the mind of a three year old? When my daughter was three I knew where she was at all times. Even now that she isn't, I still do. I am a parent, that is my job.   The cop was to serve and protect, the cop showed up and protected the little girl from getting hit by a car.   Case closed.   Simple as that.

Both the president and both Houses have simply become our version of Royalty.   How many laws have they enacted for us lowly serfs that do not even apply to them?   They even quietly removed the stock market investing restrictions they so loudly enacted some time back, don't have to abide by the ACA, have that stellar retirement plan, even have a high dollar barber shop/shoe shine parlor we fund, I've read. Hitch free plane rides, .... I can't go on, coronary always a worry when I start thinking about it all...   - OS

The judge is a bleeping idiot, and should be tossed off the bench. A disgusting abuse of power she doesn't have. This will be reversed.

That isn't the judges call to make. I don't agree with the Satan name change either, also not the judge's call. Regardless of what any government official's opinion on the matter is, the child's parents have sole right to decide the name of the child.

Excellent question...as far as I can see, ,the purpose of this thread is trolling.  The OP's first post on his first day on the forum was post no. 1 of this thread and since time tame he's mostly complained because people are not giviing him the answers he wants.   :screwy:

Well I got some great news today, I rep from the collection agency gave me a call today to notify me that they had agreed to my pay for deletion contract. Upon receipt of payment, the collection would be removed from my report. Cheers!

Bloomtard is having a bad year.

Then I guess we should say thank you to the minorities for getting everyone this win.

Judge was wrong.  Anybody remember when Frank Zappa named his daughter "Moon Unit Zappa"? 

No it wasn't.

I just don't buy new boots. I have been wearing the same old pair of Ariats for many years now.   I reckon I will have to get them resoled eventually, but I can't see the bottoms of my feet, yet.

I don't mind sharing what I've learned & I have pretty thick skin so no worries, he (and anyone else) is welcome to come down & go hunting or fishing with me, so long as they have the proper license & don't act like a tard/jerkoff or drink/do drugs, we'd probably all have a good time, maybe learn something in the process. I learn new stuff all the time, the trick is to always keep an open mindset to new ideas/ways of doing stuff. Spot's is the man though, I'm just in awe of that dude & his dad, the stuff I could learn from those two would definately be invaluable.

Not burning bridges is damn good advice; most especially so when he hasn't tried to build any yet. ;)

  Never a waste of time to view pics of a classic Colt 1911.  :cool:     Its a Government Model 1911 Commercial with a 1922 build serial number.  Colt made about 5000 Commercial models that year.     JMHO, but since it was your Great Grandfather's - - -  I would find a way to NOT sell that pistol. 

Depends. Do you like to sharpen, or do you just want sharp knives? If you dont care how they get sharp, but a 1 x 30 belt grinder from harbor freight. 120, 220, 320, 400, 600, 800 grit belte and a leather strop belt. I can make a butter knife shave in less than 5 minutes. Just take it easy and keep the blade cool to the touch using water Tapatalk ate my spelling.

(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters. (9) Directions to your doctor's office include "Take a left after you enter the trailer park." (8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Popsicles. (7) The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus" from Roto-Rooter. (6) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is "an apple a day." (5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill. (4) You pass your annual physical if you can walk without passing out. (3) The only expense covered 100% is "Embalming." (2) Your prescription comes in different colors with little M's on them. AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU'VE JOINED OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN: (1) You ask for Viagra, and they give you a dowel rod and duct tape.

They need to vote out the incumbents.

It seems to me folks are spending an inordinate amount of time blaming (cops, parents, etc., etc.) when the time would be better spent beign glad that no one was hurt when clearly, shomeone chould have been.   :shrug:

I have serious issue with parents who name their children names that will obviously cause the child emotional, and likely physical, harm. Messiah isn't one of those names but there are plenty of examples out there that a child should never be called. I can see the point of changing a child's name from "Satan" to something else for the welfare of the child but not "Messiah". If it wasn't Michael Jackson's kid "Blanket" would be a name I would change but because he will likely never spend a day in public school it will not be an issue.   Then again, who am I to tell someone else what to call their child. We already have the government trying to tell us how to live every other part of our lives.

You don't actually believe he's paying for this out of his money do you? Last I read a month or so go his campaign still owed money to MANY municipalities for security and etc. he was supposed to pay for out of the campaign, for the campaign. So the idea he's personally paying for his mutli-multi-million (double multi- intentional) dollar vacation is more than laughable to me.

Sounds to me like there is a common denominator in your equation. I've encountered bad cops before, but that was the exception, not the rule. You seem to be letting on that you have had many encounters with law enforcement and they were all poor. Based on your personality I can assume there is a reason for it. If you're a dick to a cop they have every right to be a dick back to you. I assume the reason they took a heavy hand is because you were being extremely cooperative and not being a belligerent ahole. I'd like to know what PD this was so I can send them a case of beer.

Try not breaking the law and you might not have a negative experience. Funny how people complain after they have broken the law. I am a critic of bad officers but a officer writing you a speeding ticket is not a bad officer nor is it the officer's fault. Trust me when I say the vast majority of officers would rather not stop anyone and put their lives at risk.   Tasers help prevent injuries everyday and not just those from gun shot wounds. It prevents injuries that occur when chasing bad guys. It prevents injuries that occur when officers have to fight people for control. I would support using a taser over fighting or chasing a bad guy any day of the week. And any injuries caused to the bad guy during the use of the taser is not the officer's fault but the bad guys fault. They should have not chose to run or fight.   As far as the child a taser can go 20+ feet and an 11 year old with a 20' lead can probably out run a cop for 2x times that if they are in half way decent shape. That is 40' and if the girl was within than 40' range of the highway the taser may have saved her life. If you take an overweight, out of shape officer and pit them against most 11 year olds the child will run circles around them.

If it's ten o'clock at night and I see a black-hoodie-wearing thug wandering my neighborhood, I'm calling the police, and I'm keeping my hand on the butt of my holstered pistol until the cops arrive. If asked about the race of the perp, I'm gonna say ". . . don't know for sure. . . ." 'Cause I don't care about the race of the perp, I care about the suspicious behavior.

20/10 vision so I'm good but I'm also a heffer so God had to balance out that equation...

A perfect example of why I don't open carry.

At what point does a name become abuse? Imagine a child being named "Stupid" or "Kick Me Johnson" or what about an overtly offensive name like "N*gga Jones". Any one of those would mean their lives would likely be filled with hurt, regret and ridicule. And I, for one, would change those names above to prevent what would lead to a life of misery for a child. Emotional abuse, especially for a growing child, can be just as damaging as physical abuse. And names like those above would most assuredly lead to emotional problems. So I ask, for the sake of asking, at what point would it be ok to change a name?

We have invisible fence so my dogs will not go past the line what so ever I'm on 2 acres wasn't bad about 1,200 with 2 collars it works and thay stay in the boundary of the 2 acres that's all thay need . Plenty of room for them to run and play

A little frustrated?   Check Cabelas website. They just showed some in stock.

Maybe they can do both. I mean let’s face it; your Doctor doesn’t do anything anyway but spend your money on houses, cars and golf clubs. The Nurses and the PA’a do all the work. So a guy could have a couple of hours in the Office in the morning and patrol the rest of the day.

Too much rain is worse.  Assuming you have access to a water hose.

Lets take that last argument and break it down into pieces so that maybe youll understand more   1) your assuming the 11 year old girl would stay static while the officer was covering that 20 feet of distance.  Lets be realistic that just aint happening.  Also the cars traveling by are covering about 176 feet in that 1.5 seconds.  Do you want to guess how far the average low beams illuminate on most cars.  Ill give you a hint the numbers are real close.  Take any good defensive class and they'll tell you that the tueller drills place is more academic than practical gunfighting, why because people can move.   2) Number 1 just disproved your "evidence"   3) your allowing your personal bias towards police officers to cloud your critical thinking skills.  This next part is an assumption on my part but people tend to dismiss the good and zero in on the negative causing a slanted view of the people involved.   4) Even you have to see the fallacy in trying to use recorded complaints to state that the majority of officers are bad.  For starters some of those complaints are BS.  Also people tend not to call and say i would just like to tell you that i had a really good encounter with one of your officers they were highly professional.  Again because people ignore the good and zero in on the bad   5) Your friends conspired to commit a violent forcible felony and you think this cop is the bad guy.  Explains alot.

I picked up one for a bit less in Nashville about a month or two back, haven't seen pics to compare mine with yours and not much of an authority anyhow but I'd say you did no worse than average and quite possibly quite well from an "investment" standpoint. From a "look at this sweet shooting, nifty, uniquely designed piece of history" standpoint you did very well IMHO.

Makes perfect sense, if you want to be ridiculous which is obviously what you want.

Judges have too much power apparently, if they can do this.  I find it, and them, contemptible...if they found ME in contempt, they could throw me in jail!  

There's used to be a large clique of old farts who shoot their "smoke poles" as they called them; here in middle tn. I guess the got too old and started either dying out or just gave up. I imagine theres several groups around though. I've been tempted so many times. With my love of casting and here lately I have gravitated to single shots, you'd think it'd be a natural thing for me but I just can't get into it. Messy and too many accoutrements needed on the spot. I imagine one days will take the plunge and be upseti didn't do it sooner but not right now. Do yourself a favor though, stick with real black powder. Swiss, Goex, etc. As Dave says, pellets and pyrodex, Triple Seven and all the other 'substitutes' are crap. There's a reason they are called black powder substitutes and not black powder replacements. There is no replacement for the real deal. Making your own is not that difficult either.

The whole lot of them (...parents and judge...) are ignorant.  Who cares?   leroy

Clearly a case of abuse by police. The officer should have let her get hit by a car instead. Obviously that cop was just driving around looking for autistic children she could taser, and she found one. I'll tell ya, if it were my kid I would I would want that officer to do anything within their power to stop my kid from being hit by a car. If that meant tasering them, I'm all for it. Obviously this cop did not know the situation. If she thought this kid was someone high on drugs, she did the best thing she could do. Would you want to wrestle a person on drugs only inches from where cars are going 80mph at 4 am? I doubt it. If your answer is "yes" you are so full of sh** it's comin out your ears.

It's #13 on the list of demands.

This thread is about nothing but validation of your choices to use a .22 lr in either a handgun or long gun. People give you suggestions and you respond by saying that answer doesn't fit your exact parameters. Welcome to the internet. When you post a question here, your gonna get opinons. Some are worth listening to, others aren't worth a tinkers damn. I would advise you read them all and consider them all. There are some very smart people here with tons of experience in survival situations and military situations. If you post a question with options a and b and 90% of the answer list option c, I might take that into consideration. That said, if I took one long rifle and one pistol on a bug out? Im taking my 1911 and my AR soon to be in 6.8. 22 lr is useless for damn near anything other than small game. You can't get consietent kills on medium sized and larger game, you cant do much more than harass a determined attack force. And a pistol is nothing but a qay to fight your way to a rifle. Harder to get good accuracy, less powerful ammo and smaller capacity. If my plan involved a .22 lr anything I would consider adding another weapon and leave the .22 for squirrels. Tapatalk ate my spelling.

I refuse to read anything on that website.

Save up and buy a 226 or 220... No collection is complete without.

Well that's the thing, we were never really given choices to choose from. All we got was a question as to what we would choose, a large caliber rifle with a rimfire handgun or vise versa. Apparently my choice was unrealistic, how or why I'm still not sure. Either way the "parameters" of the question change nothing for my picks. Which by the way, I personally find totally realistic since those weapons ARE what I'd grab first. Not trying to troll but what IS the purpose of this thread if half of the answers don't qualify somehow? Are you looking for open honest opinions, or maybe looking to validate your own choices? Nothing wrong at all with the later, just realize folks will have alternate view points of their own. Well, it looks like I'm starting to rant so I may as well let it all out. ;) What is so unreasonable about being able to fire 5 of the most common rounds out of two weapons? How or why is it unreasonable to assume that there may be some scavenging and of trading happening whilst "running for the hills" or even while there? Are we going under the assumption that we'll be all alone up there? What about everybody and their sister who has plans to "BUG out" to the hills? What about the inhabitants of those hills?

  Part of you also said, "Start a thread on the Internet about it!".  That part should have gone along with the part of you who decided to say nothing.  This thread is pointless.   Closing it.

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You'll be disappointed, wait for Murfreesboro or Hendersonville much better free parking better vendors

Ya'll got to remember, these shows are mostly for entertainment only.  I surely hope you all aren't expecting to pick up anything useful!  If you want something useful, go on Youtube and watch some Ray Mears vids or some of Mors Kochanski videos.  Those are full of good info about surviving in the wild.

Well pardon the #### out of me, how was I supposed to know that your extensive experience with super-soakers, nerf-sharpshooters & airsoft-guns trumps my 35+ years of actual hunting experience?