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There are entirely too many people who think "justice" = "what I want".

Could you not find a place in the 38 other Zimmerman threads for this?

Proof that liberals are stoopid.  Unless he was carrying 6,000 rounds and fired that many on his shooting spree, why is it relevant how much ammo he had?  He fired only around 100 rounds, right?  that is 60 times less than the amount of ammo he had.  He could have walked into any Walmart (back then at least) and walked out with a couple hundred rounds of .223 just as easy.  Geez, why are liberals so dumb that they can't focus on relevant facts?   Ugh, it's like the stories where a guy has a dozen guns in his collection and they freak out, calling it an arsenal.  Well, you stupid pants wetting libtards, most of us only have two effing hands!  How the hell does it matter if I have one firearm or 1,000?  I can only shoot one at a time.

What I really want to know is what greedy SOB sold Holmes the gas to drive to the theater in the first place. 

George Zimmerman deserves nothing more than what he already got.  If he didn't want the backlash from all of this, he should have thought about that when he chose not to follow instructions from the 911 operators and to continue following the kid.   While George Zimmerman may have been found not guilty of the crimes he was charged with, he was guilty of being an idiot and PUTTING HIMSELF IN A BAD SITUATION. 

OS, I think some TGOers' call that amount "Tuesday".

  Of course. Lots of guns owners, me included, would consider 6K rounds merely a decent start.   - OS

I disagree. I hope he stays and gets involved in high profile defense attorney type cases. I think it would be great if he sues the fire out of them the uses the money to get a law degree and become a defense attorney himself. To run and hide would APPEAR to the uneducated masses as an admission of some sort of guilt. The sheeple will not accept him leaving only for his personal safety. People will cry that he's a guilty coward who runs and hides. He stood his ground and he needs to continue to do so.

We need to flood the NAACP and DOJ with requests every time there is a black on non-black crime.

Since Mid March ive rode 700+ miles on my bicycle and lost 26 pounds. When i started i went 3 miles and about died. Now i knock 16 miles out daily and get bored soon as im done. Im a riding junkie now. Lol

. I disagree. I rarely watch the local news because that's all they ever talk about. There are some good things happening in Memphis, but keeping the citizens afraid is a big and profitable business.

  Fear mongering, aka libtard 101

I don't think that is what he's saying at all. I think what he's trying to say; for example. The deer is turned at a 45 degree angle and you take a heart lung shot. It might not get both lungs. Or the heart at all. If using a 60g soft point in 223 and for example it hit a shoulder blade. It could deflect and not do the damage needed for a clean kill. A 168g from a 308 will not bat an eye at that same shot, it will penetrate that bone and turn vitals to pudding. I know Kharman is most likely using a 30/06 and if I had to hazard a guess, around 180g. This does NOT give him the ability to take a poor shot nor do I think he would. It DOES allow him to take a more difficult shot with an amount of confidence you don't get from smaller calibers. I may be wrong.

I am not saying take an intentionally poor shot.  As they say, sh*t happens.  The deer takes a step or you flinch or you deflect off a branch you didn't see...  There are lots of reasons, most beyond the hunters control, that can cause the bullet to impact somewhere other than where it was supposed to.  Having a larger caliber just gives you more margin of error.

I'm a hypocrite. I tell most people that its a bad idea but I have no qualms about using it. I'm also VERY picky and patient. I'm fine with not taking a shot and going home empty handed. I wait for the perfect shot or take a pass. I use a Barnes bullet and put it either right on the heart or, of the stars are in alignment, I will put it in the head. *gasp!*. I can also shoot a half inch or less at a hundred with my CZ527. Side of the head between the ear and eye and they fall right there. Tis is not to be taken lightly though, too low and you can destroy the jaw and they will run away only to starve to death. It's incumbent on EVERY shooter to be absolutely honest with themselves about their skill and ability. It's also of the utmost importance that if you are going to take an animals life, do it fast and as painless as possible.

Right now, my 'irrational' fear is that .22LR ammo availability and (bulk) pricing will never return to what it once was.  At least I hope that turns out to be an irrational fear.

I must say I'm exceedingly disappointed in the people of Seminole County.  I was gone most of the day sunday and was anxiously awaiting getting home and turning on the 6:00 news to see the piles of ash and rubble that once was the greater Orlando area.  How dare they deprive me of such excellent entertainment.!  All LAPD did was beat up a guy and the free sh!t army nearly trashed the whole town.  I wanted to see Cinderella jump from the tallest tower as her castle burned, I wanted to see an angry mob chasing Mickey Mouse down Main St, I wanted to see some guys trying to harpoon Shamu....    That would've been AWESOME!   :rock:   I'm very disappointed.  :down:         :)

Here's what we have in my hood. :) [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JMH42/media/YDHoodwatch_zps8510be48.jpg.html][/URL]

  You keep throwing out this race baiter term around but who is the one baiting who here?

$139?  for another $70 you can just get your SBR stamp and put a real stock on it. 

Considering the violent crime rate in Memphis (where you profile says you live) aren't you sort of in a "bad situation" every day? ;)   Don't ever leave you truck!  :rofl:

They are going to have a hell of a time proving the the Martin's "civil rights" were violated... when you violently attack someone with sufficient force to put them in legitimate fear for their lives (which is the foundation of Zimmerman's accepted, by the jury, claim of self defense) what "civil rights" do you have?  Once you cross that line you don't even have the right to life which is why the victim is allowed to use deadly force in the first place.   Couple that with Zimmerman's long history of not only not being a racist but of actively helping his community and all races, especially blacks and FBI published findings that THEY couldn't find any evidence of racial bias; trying to prove Zimmerman did anything that night except defend his life after being violently attacked is going to be an uphill battle indeed.   Further, if the DOJ does go after him then we should show up by the hundreds of thousands demanding that they investigate and prosecute those who have threatened Zimmerman's life.        

I don't think this case has changed people's minds about carry laws. Folks who believed in a right to self defense likely felt vindicated by the verdict and folks who don't believe Americans should have the right to use deadly force also probably feel vindicated (by the huge injustice done not convicting someone they wanted convicted). Hell, I still hold the opinion that Zman acted criminally but am glad the verdict was based on evidence and not an emotional verdict against someone just because they find guns in the hands of citizens scary. I would say that no one has had their mind swayed on guns. Bed wetters will still be the same bed wetters, and us gun toting lunatics will still be the same gun toting lunatics.

  I expect George Zimmerman's stated desire to become a lawyer and then a prosecutor to defend people in circumstances similar to his will be steps along the path to Justice for Zimmerman and all the Zimmermans out there.   I expect George Zimmerman's lawyers, starting with the NBC lawsuit, will begin to claw back some justice for George Zimmerman and help provide him the revenue he needs to gradually claw back some of his life. You can be sure this experience has toughened him up. The thing that does not kill you only makes you strong.   Under the circumstances, George Zimmerman and his lawyers could become wealthy. Some careers are triggered by tragedy. I think of Adam Walsh's kidnapping and murder and his father's "America's Most Wanted" television show.   Some good can and will still come of this.

GZ is as white as Micheal Jackson. If they had gotten the race/nationality of Zimmerman's heritage right this would never have went to trial. 

Son and I took both of my Pietta BP replicas out today: a '51 Rebel Navy (.44) and a '58 New Army (.44).  25 gr Pyrodex P in the Navy, 30 in the New Army, also with felt wads between powder and ball.  First time he'd ever shot them...looks like it definitely ain't gonna be the last.

I'd welcome George Zimmerman as my neighbor anytime. 

That is a stack of targets, not pizza boxes.

I agree with this, but I don't agree that GZ was "looking for trouble". Instead, he was being proactive at combatting crime in his own gated community, one which had been hit with several burglaries including one where a woman was assaulted.  He called the police and followed the person whom he thought was suspicious in order to maintain sight of him until police arrived.  How, exactly, is that "looking for trouble"?  Does that same idea apply to the armed citizen who goes through his home to confront an intruder?  Does that same concept apply to one who goes outside of his/her home to investigate a suspicious noise?  He was observing and reporting like we are all told to do by law enforcement.  His firearm did not come into the scenario until the very end when he used it to end a violent confrontation started by TM that left GZ with a serious broken nose and other injuries.    Again, there is about a minute gap from the time that GZ was told not to follow TM and the shooting occurred.  GZ told the dispatcher he would meet with officers next to his truck, thus suggesting he did disengage and began to walk back to his car.  That he didn't run back to his truck fast enough to satisfy you is not relevant.

I shot a Sig a few months ago, and loved it.  I came across a German p226 for sale, but I was hoping come of ya'll could give me a bit of advice on its worth.  Comes with box and 3 mags.  In pretty good shape.  Don't think it has night sights.  Thank you all in advance.

This was shared with me on face book.  Though people here would enjoy it as well.       World wide homicide rates you can find numerous sites that verify this list. Here is one from the UN no less! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate WORLD MURDER STATISTICS From the World Health Organization The latest Murder Statistics for the world today: Murders per 100,000 citizens. Honduras 91.6 El Salvador 69.2 Cote d'lvoire 56.9 Jamaica 52.2 Venezuela 45.1 Belize 41.4 US Virgin Islands 39.2 Guatemala 38.5 Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2 Zambia 38.0 Uganda 36.3 Malawi 36.0 Lesotho 35.2 Trinidad and Tobago 35.2 Colombia 33.4 South Africa 31.8 Congo 30.8 Central African Republic 29.3 Bahamas 27.4 Puerto Rico 26.2 Saint Lucia 25.2 Dominican Republic 25.0 Tanzania 24.5 Sudan 24.2 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9 Ethiopia 22.5 Guinea 22.5 Dominica 22.1 Burundi 21.7 Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7 Panama 21.6 Brazil 21.0 Equatorial Guinea 20.7 Guinea-Bissau 20.2 Kenya 20.1 Kyrgyzstan 20.1 Cameroon 19.7 Montserrat 19.7 Greenland 19.2 Angola 19.0 Guyana 18.6 Burkina Faso 18.0 Eritrea 17.8 Namibia 17.2 Rwanda 17.1 Mexico 16.9 Chad 15.8 Ghana 15.7 Ecuador 15.2 North Korea 15.2 Benin 15.1 Sierra Leone 14.9 Mauritania 14.7 Botswana 14.5 Zimbabwe 14.3 Gabon 13.8 Nicaragua 13.6 French Guiana 13.3 Papua New Guinea 13.0 Swaziland 12.9 Bermuda 12.3 Comoros 12.2 Nigeria 12.2 Cape Verde 11.6 Grenada 11.5 Paraguay 11.5 Barbados 11.3 Togo 10.9 Gambia 10.8 Peru 10.8 Myanmar 10.2 Russia 10.2 Liberia 10.1 Costa Rica 10.0 Nauru 9.8 Bolivia 8.9 Mozambique 8.8 Kazakhstan 8.8 Senegal 8.7 Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7 Mongolia 8.7 British Virgin Islands 8.6 Cayman Islands 8.4 Seychelles 8.3 Madagascar 8.1 Indonesia 8.1 Mali 8.0 Pakistan 7.8 Moldova 7.5 Kiribati 7.3 Guadeloupe 7.0 Haiti 6.9 Timor-Leste 6.9 Anguilla 6.8 Antigua and Barbuda 6.8 Lithuania 6.6 Uruguay 5.9 Philippines 5.4 Ukraine 5.2 Estonia 5.2 Cuba 5.0 Belarus 4.9 Thailand 4.8 Suriname 4.6 Laos 4.6 Georgia 4.3 Martinique 4.2 And ................... The United States 4.2% !!!! ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans.

By the time a book gets to market we will know what the jurors had to say and what went on.

Wow I just learned that 6,000 rounds of ammo weights 170 pounds give or take.

WTH. I'm in :woohoo:   I only have 250 rounds of Eley Sport that I can put up. But hopefully it will give some kids a good time. Same stipulations as Ted listed in his first post.   I'm also in Spring Hill, but I'm in west Nashville through the week.

The best way I've found to help a non-shooter understand so-called "stockpiling" is gasoline. Let's say they use 10 gallons of gas per week in their car. Now let's say that there was a really easy way to safely store as much as they wanted at home and they'd get it for let's say $0.50 cheaper per gallon if they bought it in 100 gallon lots. They're going to use that 100 gallons over time so it's not a waste. How much can they buy before they're "crazy end of the world hoarders" instead of normal people who don't want to have to go to the gas station every time they need more and have to pay higher prices for it?

I had a similar situation. Although I have yet to use it, I'm on my third M&P (FDE Magpul) I plan to keep both because they are so different and cool. Buy the 357 or 9mm, because whichever .22 you sell you're going to miss it and go purchase another one anyways. Ask me how I know. Also, I agree that the HK out shoots the M&P.

I hope GZ sues the **** out of everyone, gets rich, and moves out of the country to enjoy the good life.  Even with him being found innocent, his life as he knew it is now over; it will never be the same.   I was just reading about all the protests regarding the verdict.  I find their behavior repugnant, and as I stated long ago, the only justice they ever sought was social justice.

I had a random thought this morning. If riots were to get out of hand in the coming days, to the point where local government become overwhelmed, the Feds would have to step in. How bad would it chap O's ass to have to expend all the DHS stockpiles of supplies to subdue "his people"? I bet things will get very much out of hand before HE would do ANYTHING. How long you think he'd drag his feet on such a thing?

Do you guys just not read the board?   There are several threads discussing this right now.   http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/67740-because-we-have-to-get-the-news-out-first/   http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/67741-plane-crash-pilot-names/

Rally? Rally for the thug?      :rofl:  ROTFLMAO :rofl:   Maybe you should donate more money to the thug's parents; they've probably already blown through the $Million settlement they got...the HOA ought to sue them to get their money back now that we know the Zimmerman acted in justified self defense.

And you lost.  too bad you won't face the facts of the case. The prosecution did not prove anything.

I guess we are no longer innocent until proven guilty.

I would like to add Static_USMC's bunny suit to my list.

Yeah....they STILL have 12 yeasr old Martin next to 30 years old Zimmermon .....This is just continuing the lies to feed the racial hatred

He needs to go choke on a turkey leg!  Him and JJ are the biggest racist's there are.  It's good business for them to keep up the banter.

I'll get that started now with this statement: Glocks are the best functioning and best looking gun ever made. All 1911's are substandard junk and should be shipped to places like CA and NY. Also ... 9mm is a far better defensive round than .45

You buncha paranoid nuts, I don't have EVERY magazine I own loaded.... Only because I forgot where I stashed a couple ;) Seriously though, I hope and pray nothing comes of it, I've gotta go to Walmart of all places tonight. If anyone else is in the Columbia/Spring Hill area, well I see no time better for us to have a gathering than the night that the verdict comes back :)

I am one of those who has more than a couple of tattoos. I have several on my forearms but I understood when I got them that I would possibly have to cover them if need be for employment. As far as the expense, it can vary greatly and you can usually tell who spent a lot of money on their ink and who didn't with a quick glance. Good work isn't cheap, cheap work isn't good. I'm a fan of the art form and if given a choice, I am much more likely to spend $500 on a tattoo than a gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-OYDvwjXoo&feature=c4-overview&list=UUve7hK8AlyXIjCFIdrg9nYA As usual, great stages at Rockcastle.