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Not sure it will do any good but I sent this email to the Chamber of Commerce.   I'm guessing last summer was my first and last time in CO.   I sure do hate it though, it was a beautiful state.       Dear Colorado Chamber of Commerce, I wanted to let you know that my wife and I had a wonderful time visiting your state for the first time last summer.   We had planned to come again this summer and this time bring our two college aged children with us.   I wanted to let you know that due to your state's recent attack on the second amendment rights of law abiding citizens, my family has cancelled travel plans to your state.   I cannot support your state with my tourism money.   Until CO lawmakers decide to bring logic back into the discussion and reverse their recently passed laws, my family will not be back.      No law can prevent evil people from doing evil things.   You only end up punishing the law abiding citizens.     Thank you, XXXXXX Nashville, TN

Please understand that your request will be met with skepticism, since most common sense folk know that a simple photo can be made to project good or bad, depending on the photographer.  I'm no professional photographer, but if Ghandi was still alive I could take seemingly innocent photographs of him during a set which could make him look like a saint or make him look menacing.  Now, you're talking about photographing gun owners in their homes for the purpose of a private project of yours.  I assume you understand how easily one could make us responsible gun owners who believe in the right to use force to protect ourselves and our families look like gun toting lunatic vigilantees.    The fact that you're from New York doesn't help your cause.  I know that not all New Yorkers are pants wetting hoplophobes, but it is one of the big 3 states that believes in removing weaponry from the hands of law abiding citizens.  I can only assume that the majority of your citizens fit the category of pants wetting hoplophobes since they keep getting elected there.  So again, forgive our skepticism; it is only because, in the south, common sense is still pretty common.

Of course this is not the answer for everyone, my justication for having my personal ammo depot paid off this year.  I have not needed any ammo whatsoever, none.   I do still shoot the same frequency as before.  For you guys that live hand to mouth on ammo, it pays to have a little ammo inventory on site.  My didn't come over night, my recipe for years was if I shoot 2 boxes of 9mm, I replaced my stash with 3 boxes within 48 hours.  I did this over a course of years, and it slowly built my inventory.   Actually this is the same recipe that I got me so overweight, that is anothet story.  While I was building, I didn't know why I was doing it.  I didn't have clear plan.  Come to think of it, my aquisition of guns is similiar, do not know why I just keep adding, and adding.  I have no clear plan with that either.    My suggestion, IF and WHEN this crap is over, not all at once unless you are flushed with disposible income, start building your ammo depot, slowly.  Then if you do not reload, you may just want to have supplies on hand.  I can assure you if you have no desire to reload, you will when the ammo cubbard is dry.

At the end of the tax year, the IRS office sent an inspector to audit the books of a local hospital. While the IRS agent was checking the books, he turned to the CFO of the hospital and said, I notice you buy a lot of bandages.  What do you do with the end of the roll when there's too little left to be of any use?"   "Good question," noted the CFO. "We save them up and send them back to the bandage company and every once in a while, they send us a free roll." "Oh," replied the auditor, somewhat disappointed that his unusual question had a practical answer.  But on he went, in his obnoxious way.   "What about all these plaster purchases?  What do you do with what's left over after setting a cast on a patient?"   "Ah, yes," replied the CFO, realizing that the inspector was trying to trap him with an unanswerable question. "We save it and send it back to the manufacturer and every so often they will send us a free bag of plaster." "I see," replied the auditor, thinking hard about how he could fluster the know-it-all CFO.   "Well," he went on, "What do you do with all the remains from the circumcision surgeries?" "Here, too, we do not waste," answered the CFO. "We save all the little foreskins and send them to the IRS office, and about once a year they send us a complete prick."     (No offense to any IRS auditors out there  :D )

It's a crying shame, no doubt. But at least there are a few folks left in Colorado with some integrity.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj2VbhuICeY&feature=youtu.be       As with any unjust law, there is in fact a Duty to disobedience.

That'd be great for us, but I'd really hate to see a "special privilaged class" created just because I'd benifit from it. I'd like to see every law-abiding person share the same "right" to keep & bear arms as the 2nd intended.

if you carry a gun in you ca then shut the heck up.  It is no one else's business, and it only carries a downside if found out.   If someone axes me if I have a gun in my truck I tell the truth.  "No".  Of course I don't add that there are two.

    Personally I wouldn't even consider it until the prices normalize. Right now there is a spike because of demand, and pretty soon that demand is going to disappear.  If you planned on doing it, I would build a strategy around the ammo price being what it was 6-12 months ago and not from December till now.

Am I the only one trying to take notes on who I wouldn't do business with later on because of their actions during this mess?  Between ammo gougers and these people selling multiple "New in box!" firearms, I've gathered quite a list.  And that's only the a-holes who post their phone number or email address in their ad, and the occasional member on here.

I'll be so glad when I can run down to Academy, WW or Sportsmans and guy a case or two of Remington 550 boxes.....Just 'cause I CAN..!!!!! :up:

  Don't see how that will prove to be other than idle bravado. What other state laws would he like to violate while he's at it?   And I'd further opine that expelling students for doing it would cost them big time too,  so they'd have to back off on that PDQ also should they try it.   Of course the practical absurdity of his statement is that unless some HCPer has to use his heater, no one will ever know anyway without a search, which will bring on its own set of problems if they want to try that.   - OS

I say due to the ammo problem, who wants to buy a gun that you can not buy ammo for.  Basic supply and demand, over supply and no demand.

  They seem to be playing the press pretty well. Definately have the right attitude.

I pray that the Magpul leaders have the sense and wherewithal to coordinate a press conference where they immediately sign those contracts in full public view right after the governor signs that bill.

I'm skeptical because its a stupid idea. No one should let a stranger enter their home to photo anything, guns, jewelry, antiques, anything. Dumb

I've been using mil comm tw 25b and like it. Outpost armory stocks it.

  Perhaps we should start with helping the sick and suffering, then see where it goes from there...

Dianne...Harry....Is that you?

I love the statement where Col. State Rep. Rhonda Fields said “I’m hoping that people will just comply with the law." What world does this dumb butt live in?  Criminals already DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE LAW!!!  Effin Moron!!!

Yeah i thought about saying you wouldnt be allowed in this thread in the first post red lol

The schools do this type of over blown hysteria to terrify the children about guns. It used to be the boogie man kids were afraid of - now it is a hunk of metal.

I was always a proponent of Don't Ask Don't Tell. If you wanted to search my car, get a warrant.

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Well, back in June I met Spots for the first time. As a token of friendship he gave me a hand forged knife. I threw it in my gear bag and pretty much left it hang around doing it's thing. Well, Spots started a "Knife" pass around to test his creations by anyone brave enough to take on the task. I did not get in on the pass around. Today, I decided to "test" his knife without his knowledge or consent. So, here I go with a series of test...un-beknownst to Spots.. Spots...I do appologize in advance for this post.... Me and Buster Dawg getting ready for the test... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/024-1.jpg[/img] Here is a picture of the knife. At first sight, it seems kinda odd. But in the hand, it has a weight forward feel about like a hatchet or meat cleaver. Not what I would expect of a knife. [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/002-4.jpg[/img] So in testing the weight of this thing, I slammed it into a stump. Well, it didn't break! That's good! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/003-3.jpg[/img] So...I took this piece of seasoned red oak... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/004-3.jpg[/img] And hit it one good hard time ...BINGO!! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/005-2.jpg[/img] So...OK...that's cool...So I picked up a piece of unknown wood that was harder than a rock, and went to chopping away... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/006-2.jpg[/img] The knife eating it's way through the wood...It was cut in two in about 2 minutes. [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/009-1.jpg[/img] So after I cut through it, I decided to use the knife as a splitting wedge, by beating the hell out of it with a hammer to split this log with it.. [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/010-1.jpg[/img] The log split.. [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/011-1.jpg[/img] And then I decided to just chop dirt and rocks because I was getting totaly bored with this test... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/014-1.jpg[/img] I was getting angry because this knife was not failing me. So, I started beating the hell out of it with a hammer. Folks...I could do no damage to this thing other than busting the handle! Sorry Spots, but I tried to destroy this thing!! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/012-1.jpg[/img] While I was testing Spot"s knife, the Old Lady called for me to come and get supper ready. For the hell of it, I threw the knife at a tree....Damn I'm Good!!! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/015-3.jpg[/img] What she wanted was for me to cut up a chicken for supper. OK...cool...I can do that....so I got Spot's knife, washed it and cut right through the chicken with it...dang! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/017-2.jpg[/img] Then after all the hell I put it through, I decided to see if it was still able to perform...without a flaw it did! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/013-1.jpg[/img] I feel that I did all I could do to destroy this contraption of Spots, but I failed. So in discust...I exposed his knife to an IED (Improvised Explosive Device)....So, I placed an unknown amount of black powder on the ground, layed the knife upon it, and set it with a piece of fuse. Well folks, what happened next is a mere blur, as when I lit that fuse, my little She'wa'wa dog Buster ran up to the fuse and barked at it. Me and the camera man yelled at him, but to no avail! KABOOM!!!! Buster dog hit the shop door, through the doogie door at mach two and dove under the bed. Folks, I could not get that poor little doggie to come out for nothing...he was traumatized!! The explosion.... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/018-1.jpg[/img] The burnt Knife Blade and crater... [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/021-1.jpg[/img] I could not do no damage to this knife, other than bust the handle with a direct blow by a hammer. Me and Buster Dawg after our IED test...we're done! [img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f397/dsayre/025-1.jpg[/img] Folks it sure was fun! His knife falls right into what I would expect of a good camp knife. The ability to whittle, chop, split and cut. It would hold up through hell I think...I'm done testing knives for awhile..... Spot's...your knife is a Satan's Tool!!! I'd buy one in a heart beat!!!! Dave S

This gives me some good ideas, I love to play chess

Its a Wilson!! Just owning one would get me fired up.. My .02....  Carry on...

(from Corker:) Dear Mr. ..., Thank you for taking the time to contact my office to share your concerns about the nomination of Caitlin Halligan to a seat on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. Your input is important to me and I appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts. As you may know, I voted against cloture on Ms. Halligan's nomination, and the nomination failed. I agree it is extremely important to ensure that our judges are highly qualified and that they interpret our laws and don't legislate from the bench. The Constitution grants the President the power to make nominations to the Federal Courts with the advice and consent of the Senate. I examine a judicial nominee's experience, ability, integrity, and judicial philosophy to ensure that they are qualified and that they will make decisions rooted in the law rather than based on their personal or political beliefs. After carefully reviewing Ms. Halligan's record and the testimony from her confirmation hearing, I have serious concerns that her record included substantial advocacy in her practice of law, particularly with respect to the Second Amendment. I believe she views the law as a mechanism to achieve a desired result, rather than as objective rules to be applied without favor. I viewed these as extraordinary circumstances that were disqualifying which caused me to vote against proceeding to this nomination. Thank you again for your letter. I hope you will continue to share your thoughts with me.  

Its because 1911s have soul most other handguns dont.

I like Brian Enos Slide Glide on my sigs and 1911's

  Um, Islam is only about 1400 years old.   Course historically, they're still relative amateurs compared to the Catholics and other Christians who killed more heretics and pagans, even managing to eradicate many entire cultures in the New World.   - OS

It has a safety, it's at the other end :)

And they got snow days to burn........

Great to meet all the new people today. Good turnout for a great match. It took me 5 years to get my wife to shoot a match. She had a great time today though I don't think she was fond of the steel. :). She encourages more women to give it a try.

Well, I also believe it is my right to grow a bunch of marijuana plants in my back yard and smoke its buds 'til the cows come home, but exercising that right will get me thrown in jail just as quick as carrying a firearm without a permit.  As far as I'm concerned folks have the right to own machineguns and artillery peices.

For the price there is no better 9MM than the Ruger SR9c. Its just a great pistol.

  You get butthurt over that while listing your location as "Hell?"   :rolleyes:

Hey that's great! But what about the rest of us that served less than 20 years? or are not 100% disabled? or what about just ordinary average Joes that would rather not have to continually renew every few years? Lifetime permits are a great idea, I have an Indiana lifetime permit, but jeesh they sure as heck kept the number of folks who would be eligable as limited as possible...

  But just think, if we get universal background checks we will see numbers up in the double digits!  What a difference we can make!  And if that isn't satisfactory, we could just register all guns in the US so that the system works better.  Of course, we'll have to make non-compliance with the registration a felony so those pesky, otherwise law abiding citizens can be put behind bars where they belong.

  Too bad I guess?    It's not that I'm trying to be insensitive, it's just that I don't see how the private interests of those businesses should dictate law.  I don't care if it's a big company or small mom & pop business.  That argument is like the argument about shrinking the TSA and how it would put so many people out of work despite their existence being pointless and obsolete.

When I got my HCP four years ago, it had a sedative effect when I drive. I'm no Road Rage Nut, but a certain finger has said hi to a few idiot drivers over the years. Suddenly I was grinning at bad drivers as if I was Joel Osteen. A confrontation while armed was the last thing I wanted. As far a being paranoid, that's my way of life with or without a HCP! LOL

I think lawsuits will pop up every time someone gets fired now. The plaintiff will claim they were fired for having a gun in their car. This is going to cost the taxpayers of Tennessee millions of dollars in litigation.   It was fine before and now that this has passed it changes nothing. A worker will still be fired for having a gun in their car the only difference is now the employer won't say that is why they were fired.   Problem was people couldn't keep their mouth shut about having a gun in their car. And if they think they can now openly say they have a gun in their car, when they couldn't before, without ramifications they are probably going to to have a big surprize.   I am glad you guys got what you wanted but I don't see how it improved it from what it was before.   Dolomite

the pope is a political leader, he just went to seminary instead of majoring in Political Science at some state school.   For Catholics such as myself he is totally irrelevant, his opinion means nothing.  The church ran me off with its draconian views and rules.   And the line about believing in God not hurting anything but not believing seals one's doom if it is all true cracks me up. Believing in  space aliens is more believable.

I'm happy to report that I am once again gainfully employed full-time!  I did get to do some consulting work during my job hunt period which was great but I'm glad to have something a little more consistent!   Aside from being thankful that I found something I think I'll really like, I'm especially thankful that not only do I not need to move out of state (as it was looking I might) but my commute is less than half of what it was and about a headache free as commuting can get.

There are many on this very forum who think it will never happen in Tennessee or nationally and they are sadly mistaken.   They thought Obama would never, ever be reelected.   They think no Democrat would ever jeopardize their position to vote on gun control.   Colorado is gone following the precedent New York set.     I'm here to tell you we have a long, long road ahead that will not end well if you cherish your rights.

This may not be a big thing but I intend to continue shaving.  I've used a mug and shaving soap for years, not because I have some great fear about aerosols hurting the ozone layer or anything but because I don't see the point of the expense. The one thing that has always been a problem is keeping the soap  stuck in the cup. I  had bought a tube of palmolive shaving soap in a tube for a vacation trip and never used it again untill I found  it a few weeks ago. I squeezed some under the soap and then filled the mug with the rest of it.  The next day it had hardened and stuck the soap in  well but the really good thing is that it makes a much better lather and makes the razor slide nicely. Just a thought

  Oh, so you think they'll interpret it to mean any shotgun shell you can buy, eh?   Of course, it does further mention "....magazines that can be modified to"....   Who knows. They'll work it out there -- sounds  like state SCOTUS may well throw whole thing out and it goes to US SCOTUS. I can't hardly believe that since the state court put hold on it, they are going to be swayed by Cuomo's arguments regarding the constitutionality. I mean, if the court had considered a leg to stand on already, they wouldn't really have even delayed it, seems to me.   - OS

Like this:

I will admit I traded my Beretta 92 for a Ruger GP100, and my Beretta Storm subcompact for a Ruger SP101.  I have never looked back.  You simply cannot beat a revolver for durability and reliability.  My GP100 will handle the hottest .357 magnum load I can muster with no problems.  My SP101 is small, but has enough front weight that it is easy to shoot with magnum loads.  The two of them will be around long after I am gone, and they caliber match my new Rossi 92 lever action.   I honestly do not own a semi auto handgun anymore, and don't regret it.  

Jay:_____________   Just happended to think of somethin else ALA Gun Control Act of 1968.   There was some sentiment in the country for this one.  .....The Kennedys, MLK......  I see no sentiment among most people for gun control now.  Now, you have individual states actually expanding gun rights (....or, more correctly, restoring gun rights....).  Even the "Snozz" Haslam is sayin that "... state officials are monitoring the federal legislative scene closely to see that the gun rights of Tennesseeans are not infringed...".   That simply was not going on in the 60's.  I firmly believe that more and people are discovering on their own exactly what the Second Amendment is really about.  I count that a good thing.    As to the Republican thing; ...i see them (...for the most part...) as just another bunch of sons and daughters of satan that want to tell you and me what we can do, what we can have, and how much money we can keep.  That is exactly what has made me a radical isolationist libertarian.  I dont like any of 'em.   Keep your powder dry.   leroy

I've proposed this question a number of times with what it must have been like to live before modern dentistry...   I remember what it was like to go to the dentist as a kid and get a cavity drilled out and filled. Heavy stinky "smoke" coming out of my mouth and pain, then when the drill got deeper and hit the nerve...  At the time that was modern dentistry and very much appreciated in reflection. Look at where we are today where sissies get proper dental care.   Think you can do your own dentistry and pull a tooth when a SHTF might occur, think again.   There are certain things that are almost unbearable in life, a migraine headache, gall stones and a toothache to name just a few. I can't operate on myself so I'll share an experience.   About twenty years ago I developed a severe toothache on a Thursday. I'm thinking, I hate dentist's and maybe this thing will ease and go away. Go to work Friday and it's so bad I can't concentrate on anything and I need an appointment at the dentist office, NOW! I feel every heart beat in my tooth and it's impossible to go to sleep. I have the wife call our family dentist and the AH says even with an emergency, he can't see me until next Tuesday, not accpetable.   I tell my wife to call every dentist in the yellow pages and not tell me any bad news. She does, and the nearest appointment I can get is next Tuesday at noon. You got to be kidding me... My eyes have bags under them and I'm in severe pain and can't eat, sleep, concentrate or anything.   A new product is on the market called something like "oralgell" or something. I tell the wife to go out and get me a few gallons or so. It tastes very bad but works for about 10-15 minutes tops, it eases the pain about 30% but not enough to get any sleep.   I've been one who thought I had a high threshhold of pain, being tough and all. Well, I've heard of sailors and such pulling their own teeth. So, I proceed to drink about a twelve pack of beer to try and deaden the eventual pain. I get my straight end pliers, vice grip pliers and 90 degree offset pliers and decide I need immediate relief and some sleep.   It was a jaw tooth and I gave it hell, with no success. I successed in chipping the tooth and not even loosening it one bit with streams of tears pouring out of my eyes and a twelve pack of beer under my belt.   Needless to say, I made my scheduled dental appointment very early and humbled for relief.   The dentist administered 3-4 shots of novicain with little effect, as he put his implement just touching my tooth my spincter muscle tightened so tight I broke his seat. Well anyway, I had to grin and bear the pain for awhile to get my relief. No wonder I couldn't do it myself, he had to drill a hole on the side of my tooth so he could put this tool that looked like a cotter key extractor in it an start prying, and after I heard crunching in my ear, he switched to some sort of stainless steel pliers to get it out.   I'm here to tell y'all, after that first crunch, I felt immediate pain relief. The rest of the prying, pulling and digging was nothing but an annoyance.   Based on my experience, a person can not remove his own tooth unless he's crazy. You can not see what you're doing and do not have the proper tools or knowledge to remove a tooth.   I always thought I was born 150 years too late in my younger macho years attitude and wanted to live back then. Not anymore, as I discovered real pain and the benefit of living in the modern age.   So, I'm not a tough guy after all. Real tough guys preceded me and have my utmost admiration, respect and sympathy.   No wonder their average life span was maybe 40 years. I'll bet a dollar to a donut their dental hygiene played the biggest part in their longevity.