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We must remain vigilant. This is far from the end of the discussion, and it will not go away any time soon. We must keep pressure on our elected officials.

  That's exactly the thing.  This list represents the current Administration's effort to throw it all at the wall (Congress) and see what sticks.  This is their wish list.  They know some of it won't go through, and they will use those bits as bargaining pieces to get the more important things passed.   The goal for us should be to put so much pressure on our representatives that none of it sticks.  None of it passes.  So much pressure that in four years, Obama and his cronies will have to pack up their toys and GTF home all sad and dejected.   A lot of folks here love their Gadsden flags.  They love the story of the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae.  They love the challenge to "Come and Take" (Molon Labe).  Well, this is your MOLON LABE moment, people.  Now's when you start cranking up the pressure and let it be known that you don't want the people who work for you in Washington to give a single inch on this stuff.

NSFW WARNING...   Those with delicate sensibilities who don't like boobs won't enjoy this video.  They tried to censor it appropriately but... the little black bar had a hard time keeping up.   Seriously, if that's you - don't press play.  Don't do that and then even dare complain about the content.  If you do that... if you prove that you're one of THOSE people who doesn't take time to read things on a forum.... I will ban you so fast you won't even have time to say "Titty Sprinkles"   But if you ever read any of John Noveske's posts on the Internet, you know that this is exactly the kind of video he would have wanted posted.  :lol:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmD8eyy_lZo

  Sure they can.  They can make private firearm sales illegal and then simply wait for you to get caught.  People do illegal shit all the time now and the government is none the wiser because they don't get caught.  But once you get caught, you face the consequences.   Don't fool yourself and think that they wouldn't conduct stings to make sure that folks are playing by the new rules.  They do it all the time with narcotics busts.  Hell, the BATF has recently made the local news when they busted the doofus in Chattanooga who was SO stupid and SO brazen that he literally went out of his way to cross every successive line in the sand that the agents gave for him.  He had a dozen opportunities to take an exit and likely avoid anything more serious than a slap on the wrist, and finally made it bad enough that they absolutely had to arrest him.   People aren't the brightest of animals sometimes, and criminals are typically just flat stupid.  Especially petty criminals.   If they make it such that private sales are verboten, it won't take long for a bunch of bubbas to prove me right and give the government a chance to make examples of some folks.  All it will take is a few front page stories about someone getting sent away for a 10 year stint for everyone else to get the idea that they aren't playing around.   So, yeah... it's absolutely a do-able scenario.  Our job is to prevent that kind of legislation from ever passing.

  This makes me wonder what's coming down the pipe as there's really no reason to remind FFLs on how to run background checks.  The key words here being "for private sellers".       [quote] 11. Nominate an ATF director. [/quote]   No good can come that.  He's not going to nominate someone who agrees with the rest of us

I'd rather get the clap than order from CTD.

The whole mental health thing really bugs me. I once read an article where some liberal psychiatrist said being into guns and spending time at a shooting range should be red flags. "Mental Health First Aid For Teacher"???  All these counselors....It's too easy to deem someone crazy and take their gun rights. And  a whole lot of the things mentioned are very vague. Vague is never good when it comes to the gov't. 

I currently have this magazine for sale in the classifieds section, but I think this may be a little more fun.   I will ship this magazine free of charge to the first person who posts a photo of himself posing with the USP 40 Compact, shirtless (unless you're a herself), and a sign that reads "TGO David is a sexy beast".   Yep, it's as easy as that.   I don't know for sure, but I believe this magazine may also fit an HK P2000. A photo with one of those will work just as well.

Good point David about the Private Sellers comment.  He said 40% of guns were sold this way...If you have no way to track private gun sales, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER?

Doctor: Do you have guns in your home? Me: Nope

So you thought the list of Executive Orders that you got from Fox News or CNN was all there was to it, eh?   You wish.   http://www.scribd.com/doc/120650415/White-House-list-of-executive-orders-on-gun-violence     Attaching a copy of the PDF to this post also.      

Thank you for your cooperation.

I think it's a case of politics as usual. He can say he tried and blame the Republicans for nothing happening.

1.  MP (Maschinenpistole) 40 2.  MG 42 3.  M1918 BAR 4.  M-14

I never do BOS at a show(or anywhere else). I ask to see their HCP or DL and that's it.

I need to ask my bank if I can abolish the debt ceiling on my credit cards, how cool would that be?!

Hey guys, it's cold up here.  Can I come down off the roof?  I haven't seen any NG or ATF, and I'd like another cup of coffee.

If I only learned one thing from martial arts, it was that anyone can beat anyone on any day.  I apply that to my life and realize that one person CAN make a difference.  It's all about good days, bad days, and determination.

I'd give a warning shot...   to the intruder behind him if there was one. Likewise, a third intruder would get two warning shots. It's only fair ;)

  My dad was a staunch Republican all the way up to the day he died.  Now...he votes Democrat.

  Prove it.               :D

F#[< CTD.

Good read made me feel great till i read everyones comments under the post now I feel like poo again...........DANGIT.......I hate the interwebs sometimes

Interestin read.  Thanks for posting it.  I think the analysis is dead on target.  This is the first time in my memory that Nobama acted like there wuz more than one branch of government.  Evidently Reid and the real politians in the demorat party explained to him that this one wuz a looser and probably threatened to distance themselves from him or even openly oppose him if he stirred anything controversial up or tried any of the imperious law breakin stuff here.  I seem to remember seein the other day that even the great "godfather" Rahm had come to washington.  My guess is that he got over-ruled too.  I think this is a big deal (...just as the analysis said...).  It is the first time that the imperious Nobama has been taken to the woodshed by anybody from either party.  This is a big deal and a big loss for him on a personal basis.   Remember, Nobama is a "lame duck" president.  More than that, he is the most polarizing president we have had in modern times.  His imperious, overbearing, "smartest guy in the room" style is catching up with him.  The first rule of politics is that you have to win elections (...a basic lesson the dammed republicans need to learn....).  Nobama wont be running in anymore elections (....thank God....); and more and more folks are findin out what he really is.   Thanks to all who have worked to make this happen.   keep your powder dry.   leroy

I dunno. I'm not sure that I'm buying that piece. I have a feeling he did just what he had been planning on doing for some time. I don't doubt some tweaks had to be made here and there, but I don't get the feeling he was "rocked" by the opposition.

Maybe a suppressor. I don't really get a willy for full auto.

Yep, you won't photocopy or write down my license number. Not required by law.

The panic buying will stop when the credit card bills start coming due. I am then hoping there will be panic selling.

John Noveske...... Thanks for a great rifle! We'll see you in Valhalla!

  Well, alright.  There's always whatever re-runs of The Simpsons is on to watch instead.  Nothing to see here.

It was my fault for not requiring a clean mirror as part of the contest. :biglol: But we do have a winner of a new shinny HK USP 40 Compact magazine. Ladies and Gentlemen, meet FUJIMO! Thank you for being a good sport.

I suspect I am like a lot of people, really busy with work and personal life.  I try to pay attention to the political world and on occasion find issues that sound a chord with me so I get involved.  This current gun rights issue being the immediate struggle.  We may win this battle, but more likely, we will lose some ground.  These politicians will take more from us, one more piece of freedom.  I can't estimate how big or small the loss, but a loss non the less.  And here we sit, powerless to the onslaught.  Sure we can write our representatives, but that assumes they actually represent us.  Yes we can assemble peacefully and show our solidarity with each other while standing up for our constitutional rights, and we should.  I will be there Saturday.  My representatives have been written.  They know my thoughts.  But honestly, really, do they ultimately care?  And if they do, do they even have the ability to do anything about it?  Where have all the good guys gone?   I saw the news reports on Fast and Furious, or what little their was.  It infuriated me to know that there are corrupt and evil men, who would blatantly sacrifice lives to meet their ideological ends, sitting in their ivory tower, making these decisions with impunity.  Where is the political outrage?  Why aren't we putting these people in jail?  How is it that we have representatives who are not standing in Congress united together in demanding accountability and justice?  I bring this up, because if there is any issue that demanded accountability, that was it.   Constantly, some new atrocity is revealed.  Some apparent incompetence or outright malicious act is discovered and then neatly swept away with no repercussions.  Accountability is not to be had.  We are just along for the ride.  We are ultimately powerless.  I've heard it said, don't hasten the day, and I don't.  But... maybe it has to come crashing down before we Americans cast off this yoke of oppression and corruption.    Sorry to be all gloomy.  I guess I watched the wrong video this morning.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIpoL3jrfo 

Only thing the executive orders do is spend more money which they don't have.

The EO list seems to be mostly harmless.   I am thinking these are not the problem.  The fight will be elsewhere, and its coming, but this isnt it (?).     I hate to break it to you kids but reagan is almost single handedly responsible for the mess in CA, esp the gun laws.  He was another "you can have a bolt action rifle" type.

What's the difference between universal background checks and requiring voters to have a photo id? Aren't both a burdon?

Essentially, he backed down from his rhetoric and didn't overstep his bounds. Guess the threat of impeachment was heard and he didn't like his chances. Now, when the supply catches up, we can all get some powder, mags, uppers, etc.

Check our conscience? What about Fast and Furious? Go back to Kenya and take the clown with you.

[quote name="drv2fst" post="886615" timestamp="1358348775"]I'm shocked that a company would be brave enough to make an "official" video that expresses their own values that are so audaciously noncompliant with "mainstream" values (in the realm of commercial PR).   [/quote] I'm pretty sure that company could put out an official video with an employee eating a baby seal then playing cricket with a spotted owl and it wouldn't hurt their bottom line in the least. On another note, was anyone else craning their neck to try and see around the censor bar? I still do that instinctively.

  Do I have to shave my chest, or are you okay with hair?

  Yeah, Hussein's just hiding behind them. After all, he is only using and exploiting the children that were killed in CT to further his agenda.

It's not like we haven't seen this type of thing done before...

Closing "loopholes" as the antis want it will absolutely restrict my ability to buy sell and force me to be at the whim of a private business when it comes to that. Perhaps if it was done through your local LEO at no charge I wouldn't be so vehemently against it, but if they changed the law it would be an additional 50 bucks (or a lot more since gun stores could really stick it to you then) just to purchase an item. There has to be a responsible way we can restrict sales to felons without screwing over law abiding citizens, but the latter doesn't seem to be a concern.

Gathering early support for dad of the year? I like it...

  Ah, it's nothing more than our opinions. We don't know any more than the person who wrote the article.

Lots of suppressors. Serbu Super Shorty Sawed off pistol grip double barrel Full auto 10-22 M4 Full auto AR10 M1919 M2HB Mp5 Mp5 10mm I could just keep going...

If you'd like to know my definition of compromise here it is:  the process of giving up so much for something you truly want that what you wanted is rendered useless and no longer has the appeal it once did yet you are committed to obtaining it.

  Seems it did, bout 1861.

These scare me the most   Trafficking and Dealer Licensing A permanent director for the ATF should be appointed and confirmed. ATF should be required to provide adequate resources to inspect and otherwise engage in oversight of federally licensed gun dealers. Restrictions imposed under the Firearm Owners Protections Act limiting ATF to one routine inspection of gun dealers per year should be repealed. Provisions of the Firearm Owners Protection Act raising the evidentiary standard for prosecuting dealers who make unlawful sales should be repealed. ATF should be granted authority to develop a range of sanctions for gun dealers who violate gun sales or other laws. The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act, providing gun dealers and manufacturers protection from tort liability, should be repealed. Federal restrictions on access to firearms trace data, other than for ongoing criminal investigations, should be repealed. Federal law mandating reporting of multiple sales of handguns should be expanded to include long guns. Adequate penalties are needed for violations of the above provisions.