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I think we should stop catering to the "newspeak" of the gun grabbing left. What do I mean by "newspeak":   High capacity "clip"= Full capacity magazine   Assault Weapons= Common household semi-automatic firearms.   Gun show loophole=Ability to sell personal property and help another law abiding citizen exercise their 2nd amendment rights without govt. intrusion w/fees and taxes. You mean the ability to give my son my 30-30 winchester that my grandfather gave me without filling out a 4473, paying taxes and inviting the govt. into my living room.   Registered guns= Unless you have an NFA 34 item we do not have a national registry in this country YET. I hate it when I hear: "Hey the gun is "registered" in my name!   Automatic Weapons= Again, common household semi-automatic firearms.   Rednecks building arsenals in their basement=You mean law abiding citizens investing in hard commodities that: Appreciate in value, keep forever, have a story to tell(dads hunting rifle), may save a life, can put food on the table, is a tradable commodity.   Gun Control=Victim Disarmament.   Your a "gun nut"= No I am a pro bill of rights freedom nut.   Common sense gun control=What part of "Shall not be infringed" are we not clear on here?   These are a start. We must turn this thing around.

  Id say whatever their motive it, it has more to do with "Keep you dollars close"

what part of 2A has to do with hunting?  I must have missed that somewhere.

Foe to Obama: Kiss my butt.

Using the "even if it only saves one child" argument is very poor thinking indeed. I am not taking away the value of human life here, but is one child's (or adult's) life really worth the Republic we live in? We could ban cars 100% and save probably a thousandfold of lives per day, but we don't. Lets ban swimming pools, even if it only saves one child's life, it is worth it. Lets ban electricity, even if it saves only one child's life, it is worth it. Lets ban candy, even if it saves only one child's life, it is worth it.    "One child's life" gives some people a fuzzy feeling inside, so they eat it up. They bask in the warm, fuzzy feeling they create and throw logical thinking out the door.    Banning certain types of firearms may save a single child's life, but must you ignore the multitude of innocent people who died because they couldn't defend themselves legally with the types of firearms you just banned?

Now maybe our law makers will finally pass a law stopping the Commercial Appeal from doing that here.

Changed title from "As Expected" to "Burglary possibly tied to gun owner map" ... seriously folks, use some good titles so people can find this stuff when they search.

[quote name="LINKS2K" post="883861" timestamp="1358106223"] I see what you done there.[/quote] Can't pass up an opportunity for a Ray Liotta reference.

We need to send letters of support and signed petitions to support an impeachment if Obama uses EO on 2A rights! :up:    

Schumer Asks Gun Retailers To Stop Sales As Congress Debates   http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/13/sen-schumer-asks-gun-retailers-to-stop-sales-as-congress-debates/   Well...Scummer can go straight to hell, don't pass GO, don't steal $200.

Per the request, I have examined my conscious and have found it despicable that someone would exploit a tragedy to push a personal agenda.   Is that what we were supposed to figure out?

myself along with 99% of gun owners are lawful citizens.   Yep my conscience and I am guessing everyone here too has a clean one.   Maybe Obama needs to study up on the constitution.

  That's ok with me too. They need to get the hell out of New York

I dont give a lot of money away, but I would gladly donate to rem if they moved to TN, to help them with the costs. 

I'm beginning to believe he's doing everything he can to encite civil unrest.

Its easy to see where he is coming from.  As a communist, he is unable to comprehend the idea of "massive profits".  As a pro-police state type, it makes no sense to sell guns that will be illegal soon.   It all adds up:  since profits and guns are both soon to be pointless in the america of the future, hopefully as soon as next week, the logical thing to do is to stop the madness voluntarily rather than wait for the swat team to shut you down.   Makes perfect sense, once you stick your head in a microwave for 1/2 an hour.

True or not, I don't give a flying you-know-what. Our right is recognized by the constitution, and executive orders aren't a trump card. Yep, a lot of people have paid more than they might have otherwise - hey, elections have consequences. Way I see it, though, there are hundreds of thousands of new owners with skin in the game. The scalpers that bought for resale can take it in the wallet, for all I care, but the newbies now have a vested interest in safeguarding our rights.

  That's pretty much my policy too. My bucks are pretty much apolitical.   Wally can belong to Bloomberg's bunch or donate to Planned Parenthood, whatever. Sort of a "what they say" as opposed to "what they do" -- includes politicians, too.   I'll "vote" for firearms freedom by buying guns and ammo from Wally, and the cheaper the better. As long as firearm companies are willing to sell to them, I'm willing to buy from them.   And yep, I'll still buy something from CTD if it's far and away the best price. I believe free capitalism promotes more freedom than most any other ism.   - OS

I don't care what they do about ammo. If they're signed up with Bloomberg, they don't get my money. It's just that simple.

There's one gun control measure i'll back, Obama should never sell guns to Mexican drug cartels. Wonder if that's on his conscience? No.

I think you are confusing using common sense and exercising good judgement with "sitting on your butts". I would love to go but work will not allow me to take off. As some have said on here they will be going but at the first sign of a group of "Rambo's" showing up they will be outta there. If you think for one minute that there is a lack of genuine concern for this country and our 2A rights on TGO then I am afraid you are mistaken. Many things could go wrong with this and it also might go without a hitch. The fact stands that there are idiots with guns out there and a lot of them may be in attendance. Don't judge everyone here on the mere fact that they choose not to participate.

I'm with you there.

OMG... NO ONE RUSHED TO WELCOME ME SO I MUST BE THE ONLY HONEST, TRUSTWORTHY, GOD FEARING PERSON HERE!!!!!1 :panic: In case you haven't noticed, this site is huge. We see an average of 60-75 new registrations a day right now because of the political climate and the fact that a lot of people are waking up and realizing that something important is at risk of being lost if folks don't get involved. Your introductory post is one of a handful that maybe got missed by the dozen or so folks who actually make it their mission to welcome new members to this community. You'll have to pardon them for not seeing that you had finally arrived and heralding it with trumpets and confetti. Welcome to TGO. Don't be high maintenance.

History is ripe with all sorts of conspiracy's, false-flag operations & manufactured crisis, whether or not Sandyhook is yet another example of one of these is way above & beyond my paygrade. The motivating factors behind the vast majority of these sorts of things is almost always CONTROL, POWER &/or MONEY. For the folks who don't think hundreds or even thousands of people can keep a secret? Well you would be very mistaken, again all you have to do is open a history book or two, plenty of examples of massive "secret" plans/projects/conspiracy's, etc, involving thousands, even tens of thousands of people who some how were either ideologically driven, economically driven or fearfully driven to keep their mouths shut. Was Sandyhook was a real event or a staged one? I personally believe that it really happened, but I suppose it is possible that it could have been staged. If you believe that it would be impossible for our government to even consider, let alone do such a thing, you might want to educate yourself on just how dirty our government is willing to get its hands if they believe that the ends justify the means. Do yourself a favor by researching the now declassified "Operation Northwoods", which was drafted way back in 1962 & authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It is a serious eye opener to anyone & everyone who likes to "tin-foil hats!" the very possibility of members of our own government being involved in something like what happened at Sandyhook.

I've been thinking about all of the possibilities of what could happen, what might happen, what should be the outcome, etc. I've come to the conclusion that the media is the problem and the enemy. The media needs to be cleansed. They are corrupt, inept, incompetent, have an agenda, and are merely the extension of the liberal Democrat party. They are where 0bama, Dems and whining liberals get their power. Imagine the past 30 years with an unbiased media who actually reported the news objectively rather than creating "news" or covering up the truth. The so-called "media" is absolutely FULL of lies. The lies MUST STOP! The media must be cleaned up, perhaps by force if necessary. They are the crux of the problem in my estimation. They constantly lie and are not held accountable. They are given a pass. Their falsifications MUST be exposed and stopped. They are what have enabled 0bama and those like him. They are give him power. The power that they derive from their offices is very weak compared to the power that a lapdog media gives them. This is where the battle is in my opinion. Food for thought.

It's definitely a lot of work. It's an emotional roller coaster. I hear guys complain about trivial things that there kids do and I have to laugh. Someone always has it worse than you. You just never expect it to be a two year old blind girl that has never had any human contact. I have a lot of people ask me why. They wouldn't have to ask if they saw that same little girl smile from ear to ear when I touch her face with my beard and whisper " daddy's home"

Never say never, bold statement is bold.

The CZ 75 is the BHP perfected.

19 EO's just to enforce existing laws ? He's trying to make it look like he's doing something. Worthless president and a threat to our constitution

  Amen.  DO NOT allow them to set the language.  They have done this for far too long.  They have demonized everything that they hate by the use of language.  They are Hoplophobes.

  Sadly true.   Only in TN does a Republican super-majority equate to at best a Blue Dog Democrat one on many issues.   - OS

I just called that number. The walmart rep told me she could not say yes or no. She said I should go to walmarts corporate website concerning this. I didn't get a good happy feeling about it though. So, still rumor at this point...

If Remington were to move from union-controlled NY to Tennessee, they wouldn't need donations - although I am absolutely positive the state would cut them a lot of tax breaks.

  100%   I once had someone tell me that laws must have been recently passed requiring ammo to be registered. Their logic in this was an article they read on the internet mentioning "unregistered ammo". The same goes for "unregistered guns". Lots of "good old Americans" in my family believe 100% that guns are legally supposed to be registered to whomever owns them.    Unregistered Firearm Unregistered Ammo Unreported Sales Terms like these are being used to program minds into believing that things should be a certain way. Then, someday down the road when legislation comes up requiring those things, a very large percentage of people will think to themselves "But I thought that was already required! If it isn't, it should be! Sure I'll support this!". 

Welcome!

  Why can't I "like" this 30 times???

  Couple of threads over at SurvivalistBoards, everything in the world being said as usual.   Two different employees say it's 2 weeks until end of their fiscal year, can't even order register tape.   Stuff like that. We'll see.   - OS

Leaf springs might be hard to work, but make some good knives. I'm fixing to make some leaf spring machetes! If you go to the flea markets there are almost always files for about $1. Awesome starter material. Also look for old saws. Some of the band saws still make good knives though they may be a bit thin for certain blade styles. You can find it cheap/free and it's easy to shape/practice profiling, creating your gradual tapers for a cutting edge, handle attachment. I've hadrequests for wittling knives and filet knives with this stuff.

Dave, sorry about that.  I went back and edited that out.  I had no intention of damning all hunters.  Just the small minority that keep making comments like I described. Thank you for pointing it out!

Juno email? Next thing you know, it will be on CNN :rofl:

Maybe we need to start forming militias again.  You know where we all show up on Saturday mornings and parade around and march and train.  Not the white supremacy  or Nazi party stuff.  More like what our founding fathers used to do, back in 1776.  Could you imagine every county seat having a militia company marching around the square or around the courthouse on a given Saturday.  That would be a true militia then! What would be even better is if the county and the state actually started using them for emergency purposes.

As one who does not believe that I should have to have the government's permission to have and/or carry a firearm, I disagree with the notion that background checks are a crime deterrent.   Criminals who want guns will get them regardless of any type of required background check, so a system that requires the average law-abiding citizen to obtain the state and/or Feds' permission is simply a waste of time and money. It surely does provide the gubmit with some good revenue, however.

While I didn't think the video he released was a good idea...  I suspect he'll get his permit back in short order...  I think he's going to have a very good claim that the speech in the video is protected by the first amendment, and as such it's a violation of his first amendment rights to use that speech as a reason to revoke his permit.   And whoever the idiot bureaucrat was at TDOS that approved this needs to be in the unemployment line before the EOB today.    And again we should be calling our legislators and demanding they remove TDOS ability to revoke permits without a criminal arrest/conviction...  We don't need a bureaucrat with this type of power.

Pat letter everyone is getting:   http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/57992-response-from-lamar-alexander/   And I'll say same thing. Is there anything specific he says he will NOT support? No.   - OS

legislators with any sense.

No, you don't have to. You will most likely go, "I was just kidding, here ya go.while you are here, I think I know some guys who are hiding some more, but they aren't reasonable like me. You want their names?"

There's only one valid purpose for a million armed gun owners to assemble in Washington, D.C.   - OS