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[quote name='laktrash' timestamp='1355067173' post='857209'] [url="http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-cowboys-nose-tackle-joshua-price-brent-arrested/story?id=17914016"]http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=17914016[/url] Wonder what his opinions will be on this Ban alcohol or cars ?? [/quote] When the restaurant carry bill was being voted on, how many times did we hear that "guns and alcohol don't mix!"? But when someone gets drunk, gets behind the wheel of a car and then kills someone, do we ever hear that "cars and alcohol don't mix!"? I know I don't. I mean, God forbid the thought of banning alcohol or automobiles, which are just as deadly as a gun in the wrong hands, but we gotta ban all the guns! That'll do it!!

Most you "old timers" should understand this one. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zyAGE8Y7ojc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zyAGE8Y7ojc[/url]

The reason these ammo shortages are happening, is because one person panics and they buy all the ammo. Guy #2 comes in and see they're out so they run to the next store and buy all of it, or they wait until the day the new shipment comes in and buy it all out again etc... It's a vicious cycle

Bottom line is his negligence was criminal. Feeling bad about it afterwards is not a defense to the crime itself. Should it be taken into account during sentencing absolutely, but he should still be tried for involuntary manslaughter/negligent homicide.

Yep, spot on. Pogo was right: [img]http://www.cabot.net/buttons/WeHaveMet.gif[/img] - OS

I think that there is a need to seriously punish this guy. Yes he has suffered a terrible loss, however a ND killing someone fits the definition of criminally negligent homicide fairly well.

[quote name='billyscott' timestamp='1355003065' post='856973'] Very sad. My prayers go out to the boy's family. I too would like to see more details released. Just to help prevent this kind of thing from happening again. [/quote] I wish it were possible, but the sad truth is that this will keep happening. The only way to prevent this kind of thing is for everyone to observe the rules of gun safety. Unfortunately, some people are just undisciplined in everything that they do, which carries over into how they handle a firearm, and this is the kind of tragedy that results from it.

Jezz , I thought we were in for more pain like the finger cut thread

You must list a caliber. And although you can swap calibers as needed you must always have a 9mm upper to put on it. Or if you list 5.56 as the caliber you must always have a 5.56 to put on it. Anyway you do it you must have a caliber upper to match what is on the form. You use the existing serial number. It is better to have the lower engraved [u]BEFORE[/u] the paperwork comes back. If you do it then the firearm is not a NFA item and any FFL can handle it. Once the paperwork comes back the lower [u]IS[/u] an NFA item and the engraving must be done by a dealer that is licensed to handle NFA items. Dolomite

He has a dog. Didn’t you see that little set of stairs for the dog to get on the bed?

This really puts this car thing into perspective doesn't it? For me I just really have to draw the line at automatic transmissions. Nobody really needs one of those and they are so dangerous because they make it easier for stupid people to learn how to drive. If NFL players were not allowed to drive cars Jerry Brown would still be with us today.

[font=comic sans ms,cursive][b][color=#B22222]I'm new to reloading and thinking of taking 4 hour class at Lebanon gun shop. Just wondered if anyone has taken that class and if it would be worth the 100 dollars. I plan to load 9mm,40 and 45acp. They show you how to reload a 38 special but i suppose the basics would apply to the calibers i want to reload? If anyone knows of a better class any where i would be interested in knowing about it. [/color][/b][/font]

Post yours or I [u]WILL[/u] post mine, both sets. Dolomite

Pics or it didn't happen. lol I'm just kidding man, I hope its not serious, and that it heals fast

[quote name='zgunbear' timestamp='1354894352' post='856429'] Was it Jemma or the US Marshal? Jax will end up taking Jemma out eventually. I think Terra and Jax are done. Jax likes the power too much. Does anyone else think the IRA will protect Clay in Jail? [/quote] Dunno. Don't think Gem would risk her grandbabies like that. I was thinking Clay ratted on Tara. Guess we'll find out sometime in 2014

One thing the video didn't mention - I got my butt busted when I got in trouble, smacked in mouth when I back talked, and often had to pick out a switch to be used on the back of my bare legs. I survived and learned a valuable lesson too.

I shot ammo through a mosin that went through Katrina. It was corroded and rusted and shot just fine..... but thats a mosin. Hell the ammo was probably dug up from some field and then sold.

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1355074399' post='857278'] No telling what Rangel really got away with. Princess Nancy got away with quite a lot, also. And I'm not counting the facelifts, either. A few Republicans could be thrown in that bunch, also. [/quote] Sure you can blame the politicians, and they rightfully deserve it. However, I think the crux of the article is that we are to blame because we vote them in office and vote to keep them there. I sometimes wonder if you can judge society by what kind of politicians they have elected to represent them.

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1355073780' post='857272'] Unethical politicians need to be bent, spindled and mutilated by getting them out of office before they become too far off base, but when it becomes untenable and they are approaching criminal behavior,[b] they need to be severely dealt with,[/b] like the way they deal with us by the laws they pass on us that they are not subject to. Their own ethics rule don't seem to do the job very well. Every day one is in office, he has the ability to break laws we can't and that should be where the decision is made. Insider trading activity and exemption from laws that affect everyone else encourage criminal activity and is more tyranny. [/quote] Yes, like Charlie Rangel. Haul his ass onto the floor of Congress, and tell him that he was a doodie head.

[img]http://cdn.conservativebyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Fiscal-Cliff-Proposal.jpg[/img]

Two things had to happen for this boy to be shot. First, the gun had to be pointed at him. Second, the trigger had to be pulled. If someone can't grasp the simple concepts that you should never point a firearm at anyone nor should you pull the trigger unless you are going to shoot something I don't see how any passive safety features would prevent this. It's like when I see stories of toddlers drowning in the family pool. All the baby gates and safety latches in the world won't help you if you aren't doing the basic steps of keeping an eye on your children.

When I was a kid, I'd help my Dad take the tubes out of our old radio and take them to the Rexall Drug Store. They had a tube tester there. If they tested bad, they sold new ones in the cabinet below the tester. That was fun! Best of luck in your repair.

Decockers must be engaged in order to do their job. If the father was so irresponsible that he couldn't practice proper trigger or muzzle discipline, then I seriously doubt that a decocker or even an external safety would have made any difference as they probably would NOT have been engaged. I know that's speculation, but the pattern was there. And the article says "It's not clear how the gun went off." Seriously? Again, they're just feeding the common misconception that a gun has a mind of its own and will discharge for no good reason. Makes it easier to blame the gun, I suppose.

[url="http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-cowboys-nose-tackle-joshua-price-brent-arrested/story?id=17914016"]http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-cowboys-nose-tackle-joshua-price-brent-arrested/story?id=17914016[/url] Wonder what his opinions will be on this Ban alcohol or cars ??

easy to be a monday morning quarterback,yes the man did a calamity of errors (these things are usually filled with multiple errors) but at the end of the day a boy is dead and a father is for the rest of his life going to be in misery if he does not end up killing himself from the grief RIP

[quote name='gregintenn' timestamp='1355065182' post='857197'] Not while dressed in orange and white! [/quote] We've only got 11.5 months until we see for sure.

[quote name='DaveS' timestamp='1355052653' post='857152'] Wouldn't a Felony conviction prevent him from ever owning/handling a firearm again? In opinion, the guy doesn't ever need to own another one. He has already proven without any doubt that he cannot safely handle a firearm. Dave S [/quote] Yes, because we all know that laws preventing irresponsible people from doing something actually work. Oh, wait....

welcome to the new America .....Keep working please,someone else doesnt want too

No such thing as an honest politician. IMO

[quote name='c.a.willard' timestamp='1355026906' post='857105'] I think that there is a need to seriously punish this guy. Yes he has suffered a terrible loss, however a ND killing someone fits the definition of criminally negligent homicide fairly well.[/quote] If one believes at all in the rehabilitation part of imprisonment, what would that possibly achieve? Accidentally killing his own son would seem to be the most severe lesson he could possibly be taught. - OS

I think politics in general is unethical.

The man has a point. We keep electing them time after time after time. Everybody hates Congress, but likes [i][b]their[/b][/i] Congressman...........so it continues.

If you can get it to pick up Radio Mystery Theater your sins will be absolved.

It’s pretty black and white to me. If a cop thinks your drinking is an issue and you are carrying a gun; it’s a problem. As Pain103 points out there is no BAC limit requirement. And even if there was a BAC limit most people have no idea what a .08 is. The OP asked a question and the answer is… No it’s not okay. Transport it the same as if you didn’t have a permit; unloaded and inaccessible.

If I shoot someone in my house, I'm calling "crime stoppers". I want the $1,000.00" reward for "stopping a crime"! Dave S

[quote name='Lumber_Jack' timestamp='1354997782' post='856943'] ....In all reality. You can carry AFTER having a beer, just not WHILE having a beer in a restaurant. but that's a personal choice. [/quote] [quote name='Pain103' timestamp='1354999387' post='856953'] That's incorrect. TCA 39-17-1321 (a) covers possession of handgun under the influence. 39-17-1321b subsection applies to drinking while in an establishment while armed. You can't be in possession of the handgun while under the influence. There is no per se influence level for this statute like DUI has a per se level of .08 BAC. I don't even risk it. If I'm going to have a drink the gun stays at home. [/quote] Of course, you're both correct. According to TCA, the only time you are immediately irrefutably guilty re mixing booze and carry is in a public establishment and you have even one sip of one alcoholic drink. But yes, possession under the influence is certainly just another gray area in TCA -- if push came to shove, you might get off with a BAC under .08 argued as a reasonable standard, or you might not. Certainly there's nothing in the carry laws to support either guess. There's also no requirement for a BAC to even be taken. To further complicate things, IF you violate the drinking in a public establishment, AND are determined to be under the influence, then besides other sentencing you lose your HCP for three years (even though you'd lose it for the duration of the sentence of the Class A misdemeanor anyway -- another unspecified part of the statute is whether the 3 years suspension is in addition to the Class A 'meanor suspension). So all in all, I'd feel rather nervous myself if my breath even smelled of drinking near beer, and won't even do that and carry (or drive). Who needs the possible hassle even if not convicted, eh? - OS

Keep it basic. Carry? Don't drink. Drink? Don't carry.

With respect, let's keep the topic to IDPA indoor. There is a long-existing thread about reloads at the NA

Ever since listening to Weird Al, I've liked polka parodies: [media]http://youtu.be/yv59SiF333s[/media]

Water and brake parts cleaner. Hose it off with both and pull a bore snake through the barrel. Follow that up with wheel bearing grease and you're good to go.

[quote name='Garufa' timestamp='1354930522' post='856711'] The geographic center of the state is there. You can go see the marker for a couple of seconds. [/quote] Back when I was surveying we stopped to eat lunch there one day. I told my crew chief " you know we ought to get a stake out and write 'actual center of the state' on it and hammer it in about 20' over that way".

It didn't rise from Oct. to Nov., it never went down. That 7.4% is a bogus number. For the past 48 months it has been steady, well... steadily rising. But then! October. The month before the [i]election[/i], it miraculously goes down (just to help someone who's name begins with 0), then it goes back up??? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

Sounds like he was professinal. That said, he has no reason, nor right to disarm anyone who is in legal possession of a handgun with an HCP. If he conducted a search due to probable cause, and you didn't have an HCP then yes. He is a public servant, not an overlord or sheepdog. Sorry for the rant, it just gets on my nerves that any police officer thinks hes safer by disarming the man who openly discloses that he has a weapon and an hcp. The guy whos gonna shoot him at a trarfic stop isn't gonna tell him he has the gun beforehand.

Really like this guy's perspective. It's one you will never hear in the MSM and one I believe is shared by many blacks.

If the school parking lots are excluded from the law, make the schools responsible for the safety of those parking there and on their commute to and from the parking lot. Leave the schools open to unlimited liability for death, injury or rape, as well as pain and suffering. Then, tell them to pick: guns in the parking lots, or unlimited liability.

If daryl dies I'm out. They can't kill Daryl off

It wouldn't be the first time I've seen this. When I took my hunters safety course we took the written test at Wartburg elementary school and shot clay pigeons behind the high school.

[quote name='fauklin' timestamp='1353817473' post='850322'] Please direct me to your source of information. All the carry laws are provided on the department of safety website. I'm not saying you are right or wrong. I just want to know where you get your information. Bionic Post [/quote] The point is that "presumed to have held a reasonable belief of imminent death or serious bodily" is still not a license to execute an intruder. Just one example, perp throws himself on his knees with hands up to surrender. At that point you no longer have that presumption, and the testimony of witnesses, or the forensics of a point blank head shot, etc could still get you charged with murder or manslaughter. Any provable circumstances that remove the "reasonable belief" part of the "Castle Doctrine" also remove the "presumption" for it. - OS

[quote name='Steelharp' timestamp='1352482736' post='842544']I fail to see the excitement about these when the Glock 36 has been around for YEARS, and holds one more round. I'm glad you love it; I just don't understand the "WOW!!!! This has NEVER been done before!!!" type vibe...[/quote] #1 I am a XD guy not a Glock guy. #2 there is a size difference and to be my EC that matters. #3 here is some pics of difference: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/sa-xd-xd-m-range-reports/208525-xds-vs-glock-36-comparison-1st-xds-range-trip.html BUT all that said, to each their own

And it will still run circles around your .458 while you try to perfect your loads at $3 a round to get the same performance as an AK47 in an over priced and finicky AR platform! Well ... bye.