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Every time you buy a Colt at Walmart a kitten is murdered. Other than that, they are the same.

If she pulls a Naifeh, then I think she will get Maggarted. Next election.

[quote name='Dolomite_supafly' timestamp='1353781283' post='850102'] How about doing a popular vote. That way the people of the state can decide what they want... [/quote] If TN were run by referendum, we'd likely have scary weapons ban, no hicap mags, and no handgun carry. For sure, that would be the nationwide result. Half the actual gun owners in the nation and probably in this state would vote that way too. A lot of Kali state law comes out of their endless referendums. There's a real clue there as to why the USA was set up as a representative Republic and not a pure democracy. - OS

[quote name='kcb37' timestamp='1353784875' post='850125'] Maybe I should have worded that a bit different. I will still stand by my statement of the doors being locked or not. If they are locked they forced entry. If the doors are open not so much. Now I am not saying you cannot shoot, you just need to be more careful about it. I am also not saying they are not trespassing as they would be, but that does not constitue a forced entry. Shooting in the back I should have added more. In general it's a not a good option. Saying this because you can use deadly force against a threat, once someone turns and runs they are no longer a threat. However given the right situation yes absolutely nothing wrong with it. [/quote] If someone comes into my house uninvited, doors unlocked or not, I would only hope he has prepared himself by having all his personal affairs in order for his next of kin. It doesn't matter to me which way he is facing, left, right, front or back. As long as he is in my house he is a threat, and will be dealt with in an appropriate manner! Dave S

[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1353777301' post='850067'] All true. Wally's Ruger 10/22 receivers are assembled from recycled sardine cans in Taiwan, barrels are formed from ground bamboo impregnated with epoxy and unsmelted iron ore in Malaysia, all assembled by current descendents of Nazi war criminals in Argentina. And all the ammo sold there is actually rebranded Chinese manufacture. Even the Russian stuff. - OS [/quote] It really does none of us any good to propagate rumors like this. You and I both know that's all a bunch of crap. Except for the Nazi war criminals part. That's true.

[quote name='TripleDigitRide' timestamp='1353634765' post='849599'] Just read on one of the local news websites that some people will have been camping out for 18+ hours when they open the doors at some of the local retailers. Obviously some people feel their time is worth little to nothing. [/quote] They are probably correct in assuming their time is worthless. There's nothing at the retailers that wasn't there a few days ago, that is worth the insanity of standing in lines for hours.

[quote name='East_TN_Patriot' timestamp='1353732766' post='849942']So, from what I read in that article, our elected officials don't think I am being "reasonable" because I strongly believe that I have a right to keep an item secured in my vehicle regardless of where it is parked. When the debate starts off like that, you know it's not going to bode well for gun owners.[/quote] Our elected officials don't know what to think. In one hand they have the pro-2A crowd, in the other hand they have the filthy rich business owners. They're running around like chickens with their heads out off, trying to figure out which group can benefit them the most.

[quote name='HvyMtl' timestamp='1353707805' post='849865']Thoughts?[/quote] Whatever they do will only complicate things further.

My 14 year old dropped a nice 6 point this morning around 8 a.m. (He took a doe there last year at 276 yards.) Remington 700 in .308. (Mine, but I never get to hunt with it.) [img]http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/jay1313g/IMG_0408.jpg[/img]

Go BAMA!!! I'll be honest, I'm scared to death of unpredictable GA. The SEC championship will be bigger than a National Title game.

If it's the totally unsupervised TWRA range in Cheatham County then I'm only surprised it's taken this long. As much as I get annoyed at the strict rules over at Hobson Pike, I'll take that over the idiots who hang out at the unsupervised range. Too many of them think safety rules are for other people to worry about.

On a national level we're pretty much at a pure democracy already considering how many people each rep. Is supposed to represent. Representative govt only works when its small and close to the people. We lost that a long time ago.

[quote name='FJCrusing' timestamp='1353807948' post='850235'] TWRA range on Hobson Pike seems relatively safe. [/quote] Real safe

[quote name='crimsonaudio' timestamp='1353807009' post='850223'] That sucks. It's why I don't visit public ranges anymore. [/quote] Depends on the range. Cheatham has lots of booger diggers and no RSO's.

TWRA range on Hobson Pike seems relatively safe.

[quote name='DaveTN' timestamp='1353807729' post='850232'] Based on the fact that I would be taking her somewhere that serves alcohol (which I would be drinking) and based on your selection for a user pic, I would say carrying a firearm would not be an option. [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/TourGlide/Web%20Stuff/biggrin.gif[/img] [/quote] It's not important that you drink. It's REAL important that she does

[quote name='Jon_L' timestamp='1352496405' post='842668'] Thanks for the input, all. I'll probably carry my TCP in my coat or something--or not if it's a chilly night I may want to give it to her. Glovebox? Haha, I don't know! [/quote] Based on the fact that I would be taking her somewhere that serves alcohol (which I would be drinking) and based on your selection for a user pic, I would say carrying a firearm would not be an option. [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/TourGlide/Web%20Stuff/biggrin.gif[/img]

Hot diggety pig! That's amazing, thank you!

Thread revival! Took the tech test today and passed. Just waiting on my sign and I will be on the airwaves!

I sure wish I knew what in the heck you guys are talking about...

Yep, CyanogenMod has been on every phone I've had, starting with CM 4 on the G1. It's really became a wonderful team of developers, they really do magic for some of the crappy phones that are put out. Before getting into firearms, I tried my hand at making boot animations, themes and doing some minor coding that was theme related. Firearms make for a better hobby Sent from my SPH-L710 using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2

CM10 is good, but there's a lot of people that have taken that and built even better ROMs from it. ParanoidAndroid is one, KingKang etc... but my favorite is Blu Kuban, it has the speed of the CM10 JB, except everything works and the modems are faster. Now that your cherry has been popped, you'll probably be on xda weekly, trying out new ones lol

[quote name='DaveTN' timestamp='1353780153' post='850093'] The Police can’t search your car unless your employer is making a criminal complaint against you, theft, etc. If they are, the Police will either get a warrant or if they have probable cause they will search it. The cops aren’t going to get involved in this. So what’s going to happen to you? You know your boss better than we do; what is going to happen? [/quote] This is, for me, a hypothetical situation. It's real enough, I guess, for some folks, but I think it would be rare. I would think, the issue would come up very seldom, and that if it did, everyone would go to a neutral corner. Unless, the employer is a total douche, which I would not want to work for; or because or I'm a total douche employee - and it would be an excuse to fire me. I'm thinking if we go to a "car searches cannot be a term of employment consent" it would be a useful law for Tennessee. And it wouldn't have to mention guns. For the big employers, like FedEx perhaps, that means that searches for shoplifting from the business take places with security at the company's door, not out in the parking lot. I'm thinking it's already like that for retailers with their customers.

He doesn't search, and you get fired.

[quote name='I_Like_Pie' timestamp='1353772933' post='850043'] I heard that they microchip the guns, use RFID, and scan your face when you are purchasing the firearms. They put the data in a special database that is sold for marketing purposes. An extra copy is delivered to Feinstein and the Brady group so that when they come for the guns...they will know exactly where to go. Bloomberg machines serve double duty to track all owners in real time. The gun's receivers are made from grade BB chinese pot metal and the wood made from a 2x4 soaked in dioxin. But other than that they are 100% like any other gun sent via a distributor. [/quote] All true. Wally's Ruger 10/22 receivers are assembled from recycled sardine cans in Taiwan, barrels are formed from ground bamboo impregnated with epoxy and unsmelted iron ore in Malaysia, all assembled by current descendents of Nazi war criminals in Argentina. And all the ammo sold there is actually rebranded Chinese manufacture. Even the Russian stuff. - OS

Well I have learned one thing. Make sure the table is cleaned off before taking pics but hey I was excited and in a hurry. So here it is. Bullpup Unlimited Stock for Remington 870. [IMG]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/verne3/Weapons/IMG_0066.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/verne3/Weapons/IMG_0068.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/verne3/Weapons/IMG_0069.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/verne3/Weapons/IMG_0070.jpg[/IMG] I was in on the orginal preorder back in May but it got pushed back. They finally went out last week and mine showed up yesterday. Have not had a chance to shoot it and don't know when I will yet. Currently using a 20" barrel and probably going to go with it for awhile.

I heard that they microchip the guns, use RFID, and scan your face when you are purchasing the firearms. They put the data in a special database that is sold for marketing purposes. An extra copy is delivered to Feinstein and the Brady group so that when they come for the guns...they will know exactly where to go. Bloomberg machines serve double duty to track all owners in real time. The gun's receivers are made from grade BB chinese pot metal and the wood made from a 2x4 soaked in dioxin. But other than that they are 100% like any other gun sent via a distributor.

They order from the same distributor as any other dealer. And the distributor grabs the gun Walmart ordered just like they would for any other dealer. The Colt you get is the same exact gun as you would get from any other dealer. Anyone who has told you Walmart guns are inferior is an idiot. That was a rumor started by crooked, lying dealers to try to boost their own sales. Dolomite

Update, well I made it to my local Walley. First in line at the sporting goods desk, actually the only one in line. The sales associate whom I know on a first name basis from all of the ammo I buy, met me with a sleepy smile, and worked with me. I was only interested in the Sig M400 in ODG color. She said they only had two, and both were black. Good grief, my planning, my selling off useless items over the past 3 weeks, was fading away, I chose the wrong the Walmart to stand in line. Anyway, took off to another larger WalMart (Maryville). Got there 6am, and whew! They had only one ODG left. Recieved my time appointment, and now I am happy owner. I will post pictures later.

I wouldn't give any weight to that study, there's an astronomical number of variables that were not even addressed.

So, from what I read in that article, our elected officials don't think I am being "reasonable" because I strongly believe that I have a right to keep an item secured in my vehicle regardless of where it is parked. When the debate starts off like that, you know it's not going to bode well for gun owners.

[quote name='DaddyO' timestamp='1353723456' post='849919'] I've been carrying C1 for years. Never had a ND. Wonder what I'm doing wrong? [/quote] Probably not drinking enough.

[quote name='Dolomite_supafly' timestamp='1353698930' post='849831'] ...Employers will still be able to fire employees for any reason... Dolomite [/quote] In theory, true...but i practice, its not quite that simple. I've worked with HR departments several times on matters of the dispopsition of "less than ideal" employees, and quite frankly, IME its easier to scrape barnacles off the hull of a ship than to let employees go "for cause" unless they make some egregious violation (ie, deliberately hurt someone at the workplace, steal a significant amount of company money/property, commit a violent crime while in the workplace, etc), . Its far easier to simply relocate them within an organization to where they do the least damage, or wait until there's a downsizing and let them get caught in the outward flow. I've actually had the theoretical conversation about an employee possessing in their car in violation of a company policy (where property is NOT properly posted) with some HR folks, HR attorneys and security folks at several businesses. None could tell me why the policy is written as such, other than to say that it came down from corporate legal management. None could tell me that such violation was, in their opinion, a "firing" offense unless the company was already looking for a reason to get rid of someone...and even then it was not likely to be singled out as the reason for departure, but instead used to substantiate looking further for more tangible demonstrations of insubordination. So no, I don't think you'll see many counterclaims, just as you do not see many/any firings for violating said policy. Disclaimer: this is based upon my experience in the NE corner of the state...all bets are off for points west, who largely consider themselves to be the real Tennessee anyway.

I don't always feel at the top of the gene pool but when I do I'm usually at Walmart.

I've been carrying C1 for years. Never had a ND. Wonder what I'm doing wrong?

I think it's a media conspiracy to sweep trampling stories under the rug. ;0)

Ive always enjoyed the Hendersonville show,it does have a more comfortable feel to it,plus parking is free.I think the vendors have better attitudes as well.I hope rk keeps it going,ill shop the net before going back to the fairgrounds......

[quote name='DaddyO' timestamp='1353686581' post='849786'] At the end of the day, these types of threads only lead to one thing. [/quote] A Tex Grebner video?

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352310450' post='841097'] All of this anti obama rhetoric will subside when we see that he's been doing a fantastic job a the economy continues to recover and unemployment continues to drop [/quote] To put it simply, you are misinformed. According to the BLS (Bureau of Labor Statistics), a government organization, the average unemployment rate in 2008 was 5.8%, in 2011, it was 8.9%. [url="http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsa2011.pdf"]http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsa2011.pdf[/url] Heck, the most recent data released, October 2012, [url="http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea01.pdf"]unemployment was at 7.9%[/url]. So while I understand that you (and 51.4%) of the population don't know the first thing about economics or finance: PLEASE, I beg you, tell me that you understand that 7.9% is more than 5.8%?

Just read on one of the local news websites that some people will have been camping out for 18+ hours when they open the doors at some of the local retailers. Obviously some people feel their time is worth little to nothing.

[quote name='frankmako' timestamp='1353553418' post='849330'] i go with five. [/quote] Pick again, Piercedan already called 5. We've got to maintain some semblance of order here or there will be chaos.

Patriotism has nothing to do with political affiliation. Serving your country, recognizing the rights of others and obeying the law show patriotism. No, I am not a liberal and no I am not a Democrat. I am a thirty year retired USMC MGySgt, a Vietnam War veteran (4 tours "in country") and was a Republican for over forty years. I am now an Independent as I will not wear a brown shirt and red armband and worship a Republican King and his court, nor will I allow a Socialist Democratic Party to dictate to me how to live. We are right now at the same point Germany was in 1934: only two choices and both of them are bad.I don't Identify with either party, I identify as being an American, and I have earned the right to call myself that by service to my nation, not by party affiliation. The store owner had the right to do what he did but he would never get my business.He was a good Republican but a lousy American.

any shotgun will do as long as YOU will do. If it is going to sit most of the time, save your money and get something inexpensive; you're not going to shoot it enough to tear it up. If you have a suitable shotgun you hunt with, let it do double duty as a HD gun. If you have money to burn....then the sky is the limit. There are a lot of good guns, most have been mentioned, just look around for what fits your budget and taste.

Meat in the freezer. LBL Iron sights at 80 yds (deer facing head on) with a Ruger Super Redhawk .44 Mag Best part is my 79 year old dad was walking about 75 yds behind me and saw the whole thing. [img]http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss292/HR_TR_2009/2012-11-0907Deer.jpg[/img]

No problems here about someone voting for Obama, Romney or anyone else, just so long as they took the time to get informed rather than adopting opinions of a talking head.