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[color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] [b]WHAT AN IMPRESSIVE LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS!… [/b][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner. First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in. First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States. First President to violate the War Powers Act. First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law. First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party, a violation of the U.S. Constitution. First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs. First President to recommend changing our National Anthem as it portrays and promotes violence and is warlike in its theme. First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer Breakfast and activities. First President to initiate a Cash for Clunkers Program to clean up exhaust that adds to global warming, then extended it because it was so popular — wasting hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. [/font][/color][color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to bypass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to demand a company hand over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to tell a major manufacturing company which state they are allowed to locate a factory in.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to fire an inspector general of Americorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to pledge complete transparency while campaigning, then hide his medical, educational,and travel records.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.[/font][/color] [color=#333333][font=Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif] First President to repeat the Holy Qur’an and tells us that the early morning Islamic call to worship is the most beautiful sound on earth.[/font][/color]

[quote name='mcurrier' timestamp='1352421666' post='842138'] Senator Dianne Feinstein Moves To Ban ALL Assault Rifles, High Capacity Magazines and Pistol Grips - http://marketdailynews.com/2012/11/07/senator-dianne-feinstein-moves-to-ban-all-assault-rifles-high-capacity-magazines-and-pistol-grips/ [/quote] Of course that will never happen. Want to know how I know? Because I KNEW it would never happen back in 1994. I KNEW that socialized medicine would never pass. And I KNEW that there was NO WAY that the populous would re-elect an obvious marxist to the highest office in the republic. See how much I know?

(long pause) . . . Most women are not going to want to see your gun on a first date. Get to know her better before you show it to her. Gradually, especially if you're gentle with her, she may be willing to touch it, and, even later, make it shoot. If you're previously divorced, you probably know that after a certain amount of time, some women might want to take your gun away from you and lock it in a little box, or only let you use it when she's in the mood, or after you do some sort of favor for her. Hopefully, you'll find out early enough whether or not she's actually just jealous and wants one of her own, for the sense of power it gives her, or whether she's willing to share yours, which seems to make most couples happy. Of course, if you share it with her, you'll probably be the one who ends up cleaning it. I hope I'm being clear enough here. I am thinking that if you treat all kinds of guns with an appreciation for their power, that you introduce her to them with patience, that you use them respectfully and with finesse, and are willing to share them when she's interested, that shooting guns together will make both of you very happy. . . . Very, Very Happy.

Maybe we could make a deal and drop a state at the same time to keep the flags correct? What does everyone think? CA, IL? I'm open.

[quote name='stick1' timestamp='1352392719' post='841820'] Lets hope that civil war can evolve from this election, Greece ,France ,Ireland many European nations have had violent unrest over similar things. Let hope we can do it right.[/quote] Oh yeah...let's wish for civil war...that's a great idea. If a person has [u][b][i]ANYONE[/i][/b][/u] living in this country they give a damn about; how can such a person wish for something like civil war.

I've heard the arguments back and forth on the moral decline of our society, the Judeo-Christian ethic, whether or not we were founded on Religious principles, and whether we were a humanist secular nation or a Christian nation and up to this point it was mainly academic with pointers going in both directions. Last night I saw it quantified. How any one could vote for and not see through a thinly cloaked avowed socialist who has proven that his ideology is divisive and destructive can only mean one of two things. Either Americans are not very bright or we have ceased to be a culture that looked out for his fellow man and are willing to burn it all to the ground as long as we get our Union pensions, welfare, cell phone, government checks, and healthcare, Two things that became reality last night: 1. We are no longer a Judeo-Christian nation and govern by the principles of our founding fathers and documents. 2. The secular-humanist now outnumber the conservatives. You can argue that these are good things, but every part of our society that is measurable would refute that claim. You can argue that we are progressing, yet every quantifiable measurement would deny that. We only have to look at the history of those who have gone before us in Germany, Russia, Italy, Greece, France, China, England, Spain ........... Argue what you may, but the moral decline in America is now quantifiable and present. We have stripped the values of our founding from the highest levels of authority and this is what we have been left with. This is not fatalist, but I propose we let the socialist have full economic control and let them finish what is unavoidable. By fighting it we only prolong the pain and suffering that is inevitable. When it is in ashes and the people cry out for redemption, we rebuild from the beginning, fresh and new. My 2 cents or 1/2 cent once inflation catches up.

[quote name='mav' timestamp='1352397397' post='841881'] Ever since I was first able to vote (1992), I have voted straight line Republican. Over the last year or so, I came to realize that there are only a few differences between the parties. [/quote] "The Soviet Union had a single, entrenched, systemically corrupt political party, which held a monopoly on power. The U.S. has two entrenched, systemically corrupt political parties, whose positions are often indistinguishable, and which together hold a monopoly on power. In either case, there is, or was, a single governing elite, but in the United States it organized itself into opposing teams to make its stranglehold on power seem more sportsmanlike." Dmitry Orlov Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-American Century - OS

Sheesh. While I am certainly no Iran apologist, would we not try to shoot down another country's drone if it was flying over our soil? Fellas, all of this neocon foreign policy adventurism is one of the reasons the Republican party is in the toilet. FWIW, the Obamaphone is nothing new, although it is more frequent in its usage. The original program was Lifeline and it was created under the Reagan administration. During GW's term, cell phones started to be handed out. The whole thing is more entitlement freebie bs, but at least be fair in your criticism.

People dont care as long as the mail is delievered on the 1st and 15th

[quote name='Lester Weevils' timestamp='1352355497' post='841685'] I don't think Obama is a better prez than GWB. But also don't think GWB was a better prez than Obama. It is a difficult thing to decide which sucks least. Kinda like trying to decide which is least painful-- a kidney stone, an infected erupted tooth, or a herniated disc? [/quote]It's not difficult for me at all, GWB wasn't a socialists at heart; he would have NEVER let four Americans die while watching it on TV and done NOTHING to stop it. Further, I believe, at the end of the day, he was an honest man who truly loved and wanted the best for the United States...I can say NONE of those things about Obama. "Policies" are important but, at least for me, honesty, integrity and a true love of country are at least as important.

A happily married man with combat experience seeks to impress no one, only find a level of comfort for his weary sole.

At least two members here have mentioned they've been laid off this week. HvyMtl, you need to let all these companies know how well the economy is doing, and maybe mention what a great deal Obamacare will be - that being the impetus for these closings. Show 'em some cherry picked graphs, that'll do it. The second order effects, companies shutting down or downsizing due to losing corporate customers and the hit the economy is going to take just before the new taxes cut in are really going to be dramatic.

[quote name='Moped' timestamp='1352432431' post='842254'] OS for President of the Nation of Tennessee! [/quote] If nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve. - OS

Least it wasn`t one of those AR-47`s..

I got an idea! Lets kick out Tennessee instead of Texas and then none of us has to move to Texas!!!

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352412383' post='842047'] We know... [/quote] You may know, but I would be willing to bet money that most people, that includes some here, that are criticizing did not know.

It's not fear mongering... just being a good squirrel. I find myself reluctant to go to the range now because I don't want to use up ammo.

[quote name='KOM2' timestamp='1352397125' post='841877'] Maybe we could make a deal and drop a state at the same time to keep the flags correct? What does everyone think? CA, IL? I'm open. [/quote] I would want TX to drop off, so I can move to the new republic of TX

[quote name='Moped' timestamp='1352332058' post='841432'] Nothing is going to happen, unless there is some sort of economic meltdown. I think there is a chance that it could happen, but if not, we will all be voting in the next Presidential election in 2016. [/quote]I hold two bachelor degrees in Accounting and Public Finance and a Master's as well but basic math tells me that a financial meltdown is inevitable. I won't be stupid enough to try and predict "when" but no one and no country can continue to spend nearly 150% of what it takes in and survive...no amount of manipulating the numbers can or will change that...no amount of additional taxation or even confiscation of all wealth can change that. We are going to have some severe pain to go through; Romney may (MAY) have been able to avert it but I doubt it and Obama and the current Congress sure as hell won't.

[quote name='ThePunisher' timestamp='1352166917' post='839738'] Obama probably couldn't get 10% of the military vote, and he knows it. [/quote]While completely immaterial at this point, he got Colin Powell's support. What a horses ass/turncoat that guy proved to be...thank God HE didn't run for president.

Funny...I thought there were no differences between Romney and Obama and especially on firearms related/gun control issues since Romney was the ONLY one of the two candidates who had signed an assault weapons ban. Maybe I'm wrong and of course, we'll never know, but I doubt Romney would be going this direction. Oh well...if you can't beat them (and apparently we can't) we might as well join them so I hope they make all future gun manufacturer and sales illegal because that's going to make what I have (not that I admit to having any) worth a hell of a lot on the black market.

Take $200 and find a used 500 or 870. Honest preference is where you like the safety selector. There is really nothing more to it than that really. You can spend more or get a little more sophisticated with more money, but these will fit the bill nicely. [quote name='Runco' timestamp='1352346069' post='841619']a shotgun just point in the general direction, and no accuracy is required.[/quote] Ummm...No

[quote name='Steelharp' timestamp='1352334612' post='841476'] Is he a troll? He has 244 active posts; he didn't just join, he's been here for almost 3 years. True, not a terribly active member, for whatever reasons he may have. Does a differing opinion constitute being a troll?[/quote] No, not until he attacked a guy for having a different opinion. Just stirring the pot. He knew he was going to get naysayers, and that's cool. But ETP didn't insult him or anything and this dude was a dick about it for no reason. He should go piss up a rope, elsewhere.

It is tempting to say let the lefties have it so we can start over...but we will lose our guns, freedom, and happiness in the meantime, and probably die before the rebuilding begins. Its like a German-Jew lamenting in 1938 that he hopes Hitler gets his way so that society collapses and they can build a new unified Jew friendly Deutschland. Did I just compare The Left to the Nazis? They are all totalitarians, so sure. I did.

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352318733' post='841253'] You're a very sad example of an individual to assume that I can't articulate myself or support my stance because my response wasn't within the time frame your expected. I would challenge you in a game of wit, but clearly you're unarmed.[/quote] Never mind my above comment. Clearly you're trolling. Piss off.

You will get what you ask for (and deserve) in voting for him. A representative Republic can only stand until people realize they can vote themselves prosperity. I now feel like a fool for risking my life in war(s) for people like you.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/excelerater/ASST%20GUNS/IMAG0300.jpg[/IMG] Yep this is classified as a handgun now all I need is a new IWB holster for it and some hollowpoints I figured I better get one before Hillary and the UN ban them,I also have a 70 round drum but can not for the life of me figure out how to clip it on my belt Picked it up at Direct Hit in Jackson my fav little gun shop ..........

If she is a 10, and you want a 2nd date, don't carry. If she is around a 5, flip a coin to carry or don't carry. If she is a dawg ugly, carry two.

[quote name='TrickyNicky' timestamp='1352414449' post='842083'] do you have a pocket gun or something small enough to be sure it won't be seen? [/quote] Only if the date doesn't go very well.

If you have to carry because you're that afraid of her you probably shouldn't go out with her to begin with.

Domestic Violence & a felon ... I knew I didn't like that guy. What's the standard charge/sentence for a convicted felon owning a firearm?

[quote name='crimsonaudio' timestamp='1352419618' post='842123'] LOL, if we did this to an Iranian drone people would be cheering on our industrial-military complex... [/quote] Actually, we would send someone over to apologize along with a couple of billion dollars.

LOL, if we did this to an Iranian drone people would be cheering on our industrial-military complex...

I guess they want free phones. [quote name='KOM2' timestamp='1352397125' post='841877'] Maybe we could make a deal and drop a state at the same time to keep the flags correct? What does everyone think? CA, IL? I'm open. [/quote] Lets drop NY. At least CA tends to stick to themselves unlike NY.

I think ammo and mags would be the place to start personaly. A 308 could be usefull but isn't at the top of my list by a long shot. As for the training, I don't see an EOTWAWKI scenario taking place anytime too soon and it will likely be a series of escalating issues if it were to happen at all. One of the steps involves would most likely be a high cap mag ban or other AW ban. Doubtfull there will be a ban on training classes anytime soon. While I do think they're a fine idea, I would make sure to be well stocked before investing in one personaly. After all you actually want to be able to use your firearms training on firearms right? Even the most ignorant person in my family can use a gun on at a rudimentary level and I suspect your already much better off than that. The highest trained person in the world would most likely be forced to duck and cover in a fire fight without having something to engage the enemy.

[quote name='Steelharp' timestamp='1352298101' post='840965'] Ladies and gentlemen, we have a bingo. [/quote]Yeah...and how many people here said that wasn't enough of a problem and that they were going to vote for Johnson, or Ron Paul or Flippo The Clown anyway??? Elections have consequences...we'll be feeling some of those consequences for a VERY long time.

Ever since I was first able to vote (1992), I have voted straight line Republican. Over the last year or so, I came to realize that there are only a few differences between the parties. Other than those few differences, the parties are pretty much the same; they are for big government. For example, all we heard from Republicans during this election cycle was repeal Obamacare, repeal Obamacare, repeal Obamacare. From Mitt, it was [u]repeal and replace[/u]. If Republicans hated it has much as the vast majority of the citizens of this country, then why the heck didn't they defund the damn thing. The House controls the purse strings, and Republicans control the House, so what is the problem? The answer is they didn't want to do it. Republicans wanted to use it as a political tool to get reelected. Therefore, when people complain about Obamacare, they should point the finger at both parties. Those that screwed us by passing it, and those that screwed us by failing to defund it when they had the opportunity. I have become so disillusioned with our federal government. Both parties are out for the same and only thing, power. That is why I could not vote for either party in this election. In many cases we are forced to choose between a s**t sandwich, and a s**t sandwich with various condiments to make it appear more appealing. I have listened to several of the establishment talking heads over the last couple of days, which includes some of the news radio talk show mafia, and I don't think they understand why they lost. All I hear is that we should have ran this guy, next time we need to run this guy, we should have done this, or next time we will do this to pander to this group or that group. Really? Is the answer really to become more and more like the Democratic party? If they do that, which I believe they will, the Republicans will never get back into the White House, nor will they regain my vote.

I guess I'm a little irritated, so I will be blunter than usual. I'll make a comparison to Baseball, to make it a little easier on folks. I'll try to use little words. There is Baseball, and there are fans of Baseball, and there are rules in Baseball. We support this team, or that team and it's all straightforward. Except it's not. There's a little concept called "Inside Baseball." This has a lot to do with the intrigue between the team owners, and the buying and selling of players, and a lot of other strange stuff that affects the outcome of Baseball, even though it's not "Baseball" itself. I imagine it's possible for a Baseball fan to enjoy the game, and never think twice about "Inside Baseball." And yet, to pretend that "Inside Baseball" doesn't have an impact on the game and scores and outcomes of Baseball, is, well, VERY STUPID. I have very little respect for someone that can't grasp that basic concept. In Politics, there are Major Parties and Third Parties and a lot of stuff involved in the game of Politics. And there is "Inside Politics" and "Inside Inside Politics" and "Inside Inside Inside Politics," probably 10 layers down. And, all this "Inside Politics" stuff affects Politics. So, among other problems, otherwise well-meaning individuals who vote for Third Parties in General Elections out of principle, or loyalty, or personal desire, are not creating the outcome they expect or desire. In many cases, due to "Inside Politics" they are working against their own best interests. They are being used by Powerful People who are playing "Inside Politics." Little People who do this to themselves, I am very sorry to say, are VERY STUPID. There really is no other way to put it. It is necessary to put your heart and soul into Politics and work to get your particular point of view incorporated in the views of one of the two Major Parties competing in the General Election. You will never get just exactly what you want, but there are millions of people in this country and more or less like-minded people need to compromise and cooperate to get some part of their views into the views of one of the two Major Parties, because of the millions of People, No One is getting just exactly what they want. To not do this, to not understand this, is VERY STUPID. If you are so VERY STUPID as to make this fundamental error, it is best that you just stick with Baseball. Voting for Third Parties in a General Election is a lot like playing Baseball in the PARKING LOT of the Baseball Stadiums where the real teams are playing Baseball. It uses up players and energy and resources that could be better used by one of the real teams inside the stadium. It would be a lot smarter to get a player or two, or a tactic or two that you want onto one of the two teams playing in the Baseball stadium.

[quote name='gregintenn' timestamp='1352389188' post='841787']...We had the choice of two liberals...If we're going to have a lib president, I don't know why anyone would prefer a lib Republican over a lib Democrat. At least the Dem isn't trying to pretend he is something he isn't. [/quote] Wow am I tired of hearing that "we had a choice of two liberals"...I swear if GW himself were alive and running and not "conservative" enough for someone they would chime in with that statement. I'd take a TRUE and COMPLETE liberal of either party any day, who has morals, values and who actually likes the country, over anyone of any party without those attributes.

Who is surprised by this? Things are going to start moving very fast under this regime. 0bama has Valerie Jarrett over in Iran cutting a deal and he himself is cutting a deal with Putin in secret. This is what people voted for. They are about to receive it.

Amazing how the smaller space controls the larger.

Well we should not be hearing any crying about the Electoral College for a while.

I'm glad I've been investing in lead

Romney would have behaved for four years. The radical/socialist/statist/anti-colonial/community organizer will push the cloward piven strategy to destroy our economy and push the gun ban agenda. Rome is burning and the sheeple are worried about sports scores. We are headed for a storm. A bad one.

Personally I would love to see more states with Maine and Nebraska style electoral vote systems.

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352318733' post='841253'] You're a very sad example of an individual to assume that I can't articulate myself or support my stance because my response wasn't within the time frame your expected. [color=#ff0000]I would challenge you in a game of wit, but clearly you're unarmed.[/color] [/quote]Although this wasn't aimed at me it's kind of the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it? Anyway, I hope unemployment and poverty are what you get for your vote. As an independent, middle class voter, Obama's done NOTHING for me - which makes me want to barf every time he claims to be working for the middle class - and I can't see how any moron can pay almost twice as much for a gallon of gas, pay higher utility bills, pay higher food bills, and pay higher health insurance rates and think they're the same or better off as they were four years ago. It's mind-bogglingly stupid!

[quote name='kesava' timestamp='1352311162' post='841115'] I think he's been doing a fantastic job. I'm a hard working American that believes in responsible gun rights. Not trolling, just sharing. It seems that most people who were pro Romney didn't see the fallacy in his economic policy. He Is out of touch. All of this anti obama rhetoric will subside when we see that he's been doing a fantastic job a the economy continues to recover and unemployment continues to drop [/quote] So in other words, you don't really have an answer to my earlier questions. I was asking for an honest response on WHY you think he's doing a good job and HOW you quantify that belief. You don't appear to have that info. The economy is worse now than when he took office, the national debt is higher, the deficit is higher, and job growth is at a crawl except for the government sector. He's proposed no policies to fix Social Security, Medicare, or entitlement spending. He hasn't proposed any policy to address immigration. He has yet to propose a successful policy approach to energy problems. His foreign policy ideas are primarily extensions of Bush-era policies or quite similar to Romney's. He has not redeemed the USA in the eyes of the international community, we are still engaged in armed conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's ignored atrocities/genocide in Darfur and Syria. He oversaw the Benghazi debacle. He oversaw the "Fast and Furious" debacle. He hasn't gotten ONE SINGLE VOTE from Republicans or Democrats in Congress for his proposed budgets nor has he been able to lead a compromise between the two parties on budget issues. He oversaw the passage of the healthcare reform act, which most Americans don't approve of, that he's exempted dozens of businesses from, and that he had to lie to sell to the American people (hence the penalty vs. tax issue). Violent crime increased last year for the first time in almost 2 decades. He's increased the use of federal authorities to raid state-sanctioned medical marijuana facilities in conflict with his campaign promises. He's appointed members of special interest groups to positions in his administration in conflict with his campaign promises. He took a meaningless stance on same-sex marriage. His own administration has the gender-based pay disparities he claims to abhor. Crime and unemployment is at extraordinary high levels within the black community. He's apparently doing such a good job that he won by a much smaller margin this year than in 2008. Please tell me one single clear achievement that demonstrates he's doing a good job.

I’m not a big knife buyer, but I would not be impressed by cutsie names and funny hats. I would want to see close up detail showing blade surface finish and edge detail, handle detail, etc. Unless you want to spend a butt load of money on a new camera and learn some software packages, you might consider finding a skilled photographer locally that will trade photos for knives. Not trying to be hard on you, but you are new, and people are going to have to see close up detail of your work if you expect to sell over the net. Especially when you are asking hundreds of dollars for your work.

I am concerned that more and more we see officers that would rather treat every citizen as a suspect rather than a fellow citizen. Police are civilians too. They need to realize that just because someone is armed does not equate to reasonable suspicion or probable cause for anything. The fact that the supervisor ordered him released tells me there wasn't anything to it more than likely - officers have a litany of things they can arrest for if they are angry. Some police I think are scared of citizens from the time they go onto the road until they come off. That is unhealthy for them as well as society.