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Today I was promoted to Sergeant Major in the Army. My wife was the one to pin/patch me. If it wasn't for her and all the Soldiers that have worked with me current and in the past I would have never made it. I'm sitting in my office with a huge smile on my face. Don't worry I know the Commander will come wipe it off my face in a minute. LOL

Obama is a lot of things and most of them are worthy of criticism. But I just do not see him trying a military takeover of the country. I can see him pulling a "gore" with the election recounts or whining about a loss, because, like gore, he is the chosen one in his own mind and cannot even imagine losing. Honestly, though, I think obama has more class than gore. I think he will stand down and become another clinton --- always sticking his 2 cents in for the media. He may become a leader of liberals, or possibly the black community like sharpton etc, and keep a pot stirring with such a position. This being obama, I could see him starting a TV show.

maybe he paid based on worth? And it bothers me not in the least that someone visits a prostitute. It is just another law that inhibits personal freedoms. There is no victim.

Do not invite people to your house that you do not know. They might decide to pass on the sale then come back later and burglarize your home. Even if it is only a mile away at a convienence store that is better than having a stranger know where the guns are. Dolomite

It was rather funny. Get that dreaded call at 2am and can hear crying on the phone when wife answers and start to get up, and Tnbrat keeps asking are you hurt and no answer and she says, "sorry, I was apologizing to mr deer for hitting him." It was priceless. I told her to slow down bullets are cheaper that cars. JTM Sent from my iPhone

A bit far. I would totally watch / listen to it on utoob or webinar or whatever if that is an option, maybe you can record it and share it with more folks as well as live?

only thing I will add is that if you plan on having someone fill out a bill of sale you make sure they know up front. Could be a dealbreaker for me and lots of others. I suggest putting it in your add if you so choose to do it. Welcome to TGO and good luck in selling your guns!

I love anything old, especially the mechanical. The only one of these that does not run is the big Waltham missing the hands. I have taken it fully apart, and I think I know what it needs to work again. From the top: 1892 11 jewel Elgin, 1924 17 jewel Elgin, 1926 21 jewel South Bend Studebaker, 1883 7 jewel? American Waltham, 1900 7 jewel Elgin

The Marines need to guard the White House to ensure he DOES leave . . . and doesn't take the silverware with him. I imagine after November 6th the shredders will be going full blast. They'll have to use 55 gallon burn barrels and diesel fuel to destroy all the evidence. They'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the White House on January 20, 2013.

Yeah I got the feeling that in one week we will know if America continues to be the country we love, with the freedoms we enjoy everyday, or if we will do something that is not reversible and reelect a man who hates this country and would like nothing more than to destroy everything we are and stand for.

I got a pretty impressive shoulder rig for when I'm on my segway. Except when I got my outlaw club cut on then its tactical thigh rig all the way. Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk 2

The bank president wasn't going to put up with this crap. Not sure what he could have done if the guy had just driven away, since I don't think it's legal to use lethal force in that instance. http://www.stltoday....4baebc1539.html David W. Thompson, the president of a Troy bank, was in his office Tuesday afternoon talking with a salesman about advertising when his receptionist buzzed him with an emergency. "David, we've got a problem," she told him. Thompson said he looked out his office window into the bank lobby of Peoples Bank & Trust. He saw that his tellers looked fearful. And he saw a man wearing a heavy jacket and a ghoulish Halloween mask calmly walk away from the tellers, carrying one of the bank's money bags. Thompson, 58, followed the man outside, onto the parking lot, and locked the bank door behind him. Thompson let the robber get to his truck — then Thompson pulled his personal handgun, a Colt .380, and pointed it at the robber's face before he could drive away, he told the Post-Dispatch. "Sir, get out of the truck," Thompson remembers demanding. "You're not going anywhere." And when the man put his hand in his jacket pocket, as if he had a weapon, Thompson scolded him again. "You don't want to go there," Thompson implored. "This will end badly." By that time, another bank official who also carries a concealed weapon had joined Thompson on the lot. "Now you have two guns on you," Thompson said. "Don't try anything." The robber, it turns out, had no weapon of his own. He only pretended to have one — but Thompson said he wasn't scared. "It worked out wonderfully," Thompson said Wednesday morning. "I had the element of surprise." The bank robber never took off his mask or said anything during the confrontation on the parking lot, Thompson said. He said he thought the man was on drugs because he walked slowly and had slow movements to his right and left. Thompson said he pulled the man from the truck and stood between the robber and the truck. Thompson could hear the sirens in the distance. Police arrived within 60 seconds of the time the bandit walked out of the bank. Police forced him to the ground and pulled the mask off his face. The man's eyes looked a bit dazed, Thompson said. Thompson didn't recognize the man but one of his tellers later said she did. Police opened the man's wallet, and Thompson saw a debit card for Peoples Bank, at 430 East Wood Street. "That's when I realized he was one of our customers," Thompson said. The man, Donald R. Lee, 58, of the first block of Ruby Drive in unincorporated Lincoln County, was charged with first-degree robbery. His bail was set at $50,000 cash-only. Afterward, Thompson did some research on the suspect. Lee had opened an account with the bank in April, Thompson said. The man had walked into the bank a few minutes before the lobby was to close for the day. There were about 60 employees in the three-story building and about three customers in the bank, Thompson said. The man had ignored, and brushed right by, two bank employees who told him to take off the Halloween mask. The teller also told him to remove the mask, but he said, "No, you gotta give me all your money." The tellers then saw the masked man put his hand in his coat pocket, indicating he had a gun. Thompson credits his tellers for their handling of the situation. "They did exactly what they were supposed to do," he said. "They stayed calm and nobody caused a stink." Thompson said his own training kicked in, too, and he knew to let the robber get outside — so his workers were safe —and to lock the door behind him. He wasn't scared. Mad is more like it, he said. "I didn't have time to get scared," Thompson said. "I was excited. Your adrenaline pumps. He robbed a bank, he menaced my employees — and I don't allow that," said Thompson, a life member of the National Rifle Association who proudly supports conceal-carry laws. When he got home Tuesday night, his wife ordered him a "victory pizza. " He was so giddy from nabbing the bandit that he didn't get to sleep until about 1 a.m. Wednesday. Thompson, who was born and raised in Lincoln County, has been with the bank 36 years. It is a family-operated business. He started as a bookkeeper in 1978 and was promoted to president about nine years ago. He was mowing the grass at the bank when he was 8 years old and his father ran the bank. His father is now 82 years old and is chairman of the board. This is the first bank robbery in Thompson's tenure. There was a robbery in the 1930s, he said. As the story goes, the two brothers who robbed the bank were caught by police and served their time. When they were released from prison, "they came back to their hometown and became fairly responsible citizens and customers of the bank." Thompson said, "If this guy (from Tuesday's robbery) wants to serve his time and come back, I can't say I wouldn't let him be a customer."

A few years ago, my wife asked how many I had. I told her. These days she doen't ask how many "We" have, only that I must always have enough on hand to protect her from whatever should arise. The number isn't important. What is, is the ability to know what you got, how to use it, maintain it, and not let your obsession/collection interfere with other aspects of everyday life. She doesn't ask why I have ammo any more, only if I have enough. I married a smart woman.

Not sure, I just need one more, maybe two and I'm good. And some suppressors, maybe some SBRs to suppress. And a new hunting rifle, and a target pistol, and a shorter shotgun, and a longer shotgun... And more Garands.

I collect guns and hoard ammo.

I guess I do have a problem.....but I like it! I consider it being a custodian of history for future generations.

I'm more concerned about the latent prints that could be recovered from the tinfoil of my previously discarded helmets.

"Two defendants in the case, Manuel Mendoza and Marco Magana of Green Bay, Wis., have been charged with federal drug crimes after DEA agent Steven Curran claimed to have discovered more than 1,000 marijuana plants grown on the property, and face possible life imprisonment and fines of up to $10 million." I vote to legalize marijuana!

When I was in my late teens/early 20's, I really wanted to develop a .40 or .41 caliber straight-walled round based on a necked-up .30-30. Sort of a scaled down .444 Marlin or .45-70. All it would require is a barrel change for a Marlin 336, I think. Then, of course, there is the cartridge, die and load development. I think it would be a flatter shooting round with similar "knock-down" to the .444 or .45-70. Of course, now that I'm a bit more experienced, I prefer bottleneck rounds for rifles. But if someone with the resources were to take that idea and run with it, I'd be really interested in the results. Will

This was a well written article, at least technically. ANYBODY that goes thru all the crap to become the pres was doing it as much for the history books as anything else. If Obama thinks he can win a dispute over the vote, then he'll fight just like Gore AND Bush did. When it's time for him to go, he'll leave quietly. The guy is a commie, and has a huge ego, but he does care about his mark on history. Oh yeah... :tinfoil: :tinfoil:

He can’t do anything with the military against this country, if he loses the election he couldn’t take over a day care center. But he can issue pardons,Executive orders, and start wars in other countries. When any forward thinking company has a person in leadership give notice they take their keys, give them a pat on the back, thank them for their service, and walk them out the door…. Right then. There’s a reason for that and it should apply to the President. When the election results are certified, the winner should be sworn in. It’s insane to leave a President in Officer for nearly three months, especially one that has been voted out. We have too much going on in the world to leave someone like that in charge.

How can one be inconspicuous but ridiculous at the same time? - OS

I'll say the same thing I said the last time this was posted. If you want to copy a state; copy one of the four states that have Constitutional carry. Louisiana can make all the noise they want about this, but it won't be the strongest 2nd amendment law in the nation. You don't a law, just recognize the 2nd amendment as any individual right of citizens and you are good to go. Look at Vermont. All of the free carry states are Yankee States. It would be nice to see Tennessee be the first Southern state to do it.

I'd say that there is really nothing "wrong" with the law we have (not that it couldn't be improved).If our legislators actually followed the state constitution most of the restrictions we have to contend with in TN would, of necessity, never have been passed into law in the first place. In other words, our problem, as is usually the case, is with the people this state has been electing to office.

I worry about it more from the perspective of rust. I don't want my fingerprint to rust someone's gun. Crime? nah.

I've heard it said that 90% of what we worry about will never happen and that of the remaining 10%, half of that we can't impact in any way. In other words, stop worrying.

I once lived in Chicago...there is much about the city I love but I'll never again be within the city limits or, for that matter, within the state of Illinois and it's because of their incredibly stupid anti-gun mindset and idiocy like this... "It is very important to us to tax guns because we know that guns are the sources of the incredible violence we have in our neighborhoods," said Preckwinkle at a news conference on Wednesday" Yeah...of course lady...it's the GUNS that are the problem; not the violent criminal human garbage who commit murders and other violent crimes...it can't possibly be the thugs, most of whom already have multiple felony convictions and, rather than rotting in jail, are out on the street free to commit even more crimes...no...it CAN'T be them!!! God; this stuff pisses me off.

Black bullets international will be at the match. Let us know if you need anything and I will bring it with. That's if its OK with Michael. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

In keeping with the picture part of this thread here are two of the Holy Grails of Tennessee insignia. The first is the 1926- 1929 Tennessee State Police badge. I saw one original in Nashville on the wall and bid in an auction for the only one I have ever seen up for sale. It finally sold to a professor at Lambuth College in Jackson for $3800.00 years ago. The second is the patch from the infamous "Yellow Jackets" of the THP back around 1929 or 1930. They were reputed to be thugs who personally worked for the governor and did all his dirty, sometimes illegal work. It was worn on yellow motorcycle jackets. Cherokee Slim

Ah, what do you know? You can't even fix your own car!

As a forensics professional, unless they were to shoot someone with immediately after you handled it, there simply isn't going to be enough of a print left to be an issue. Fingerprints have many enemies besides being wiped off with something. They degrade naturally in the air as well. The usable lifespan of a fingerprint, even in ideal conditions is actually pretty short.

BJJ...if you have to ask, you can't afford it. Seriously though, the Glock vs 1911 is a silly argument. The Glock vs Hi-Point is not. Especially when your well being may be on the line. Not all martial arts are the same. Any martial art that lacks a ground training element is incomplete in my opinion. And many martial arts are sportive arts masquerading as self defense (I'm looking at you Tae Kwon Do) that could seriously get somebody hurt. I would make the same statement about many of the latest generation of BJJ schools that focus only on competing in tournaments.

Maybe you misunderstood... I was merely amused by the acronym, BJJ. Forgive my adolescent humor. That said the "discipline A is better than discipline B" debate is roughly equivalent to the glock vs. 1911 debate... pointless at best. I have a bit of interest in martial arts. I suspect my older boy might benefit from it in a year or two, and I know I could use the exercise/stress outlet.

Ruger MK II 22

I would say he had been fighting with another buck. I've taken a few that was marked-up good from fighting with an eye out, or an ear that was cut. No telling for sure.

Guys, I don't want to make this an advertisement, but there are a number of things to consider here. No offense to Mike, but I wouldn't just look to the best known criminal attorneys in town. In a self-defense case, you need an attorney who knows guns, gun training, and the right experts who can testify on your behalf. I know a LOT of really good defense attorneys who I would not use in a self-defense case. There are a number of ways to go about it, but I would suggest starting with one of the attorney advertisers on TGO. there is one in each division of Tennessee. There are also a few on here that are not advertisers, but are good attorneys who could handle a self-defense case. I think an initial call or email would allow you to ask what would be needed to "retain" that attorney. Each will have a different requirement for that. I am contemplating hosting a meeting where attendees could discuss self-defense law, aftermath issues, retaining attorneys, hiring experts, and similar issues. It would be held in Franklin, but would be a free event. I will post that in a different post to avoid hijacking this thread, though.

It means you have been a good member, when I joined I got 10 the first day in just 3 posts. Ya behave and they go away. Ya got none, ya dont want none.

So.. what's the problem!?

I am a pool player by winter and building anything wood or mechanical, working on old cars and playing bad golf lol. I like having fun no matter what it is doing building an entertainment center with hidden drawers or working on an old car its all good to me.

Blasphemy!!

You might be an Arab redneck if you shoot a power line in two & electrocute 23 of y'er family members...here's your sign!

If my firearm has a safety, I use it and PRACTICE using it. You don't want to need your firearm in a hurry and fumble around wondering if the safety is on or not. My current pistol doesn't have one....but my rifles and shotgun do.

Yes. The treasure is the greatest of all. The ultimate sacrifice that an ordinary man has given to his fellow Countrymen. His body was mangled or lost in time and cannot be identified. To be nameless is to not exist. The sentinel guard is the very least this Country can do to honor those that have given everything for the rest of us to carry on. Even though they may be nameless, their service will never be forgotten. I believe we will guard that tomb, as we should, until this Country has fallen.

For your budget, if you want a very accurate bench gun in 308, you could consider the Savage 12 Benchrest in 308. You would then have $400 for a nice scope. This would challenge you in other ways, especially since you reload. That gun is capable of 1/2 MOA easily. The fun (at least for me) is working up a load for the gun and really working on shooting technique to see how good YOU can make it shoot. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/57415 While Savage's aren't always the prettiest guns, they are typically the best value of accuracy vs. cost. If you want to spend more on the gun and save up for a scope, I would consider a Cooper. There are a million possibilities. If you want something more tactical, then I am not the guy to give opinions. I have a few AR-15's, but not an AR-10. More information would really be need to given to make a good recommendation. You don't have a bolt gun. My personal opinion would be to have at least one bolt gun.

No one in this administration has any respect for anyone. Obama, Biden, Clinton; they are all bottom feeders that think they are better than everyone else. That statement sounds like something a drunk would say.

I swear, some people amaze me. I cannot tell you how disgusted I have been over the past several months of this election cycle over a lot of the comments I have read here, and the treatment of those who are not Romney-bots. I think it has been pretty shameful, but I guess TGO has more than its share of curmudgeons and/or partisan hacks. In this case, we have the editorial section of paper give it's endorsement to a viable candidate who will be on the ballot in all 50 states. Their reasoning: It may not be what some want to read, but CTFP's reasoning seems pretty sound to me. I don't really see how that can't be considered an intelligent reason, nor do I see how it is a stupid gesture. I have said this many times in the past, but I will reiterate it here. I believe that people should vote for who they think is the best candidate, and that includes, even though it makes me gag to say it, those who will vote for Obama. Just so you'll know, I am fully aware of what I stand to lose if Obama wins reelection.

There is a good chance that I rode your monorail, I lived in O-town in the mid 70s.

LOL. It was 100% polyester in 90+ degree heat in the summer with about 80% humidity. I would be wringing wet if I was working a day shift.

What is "right" is a subjective term.

The only people I make an effort to determine if they are carrying are folks who look like they are up to no good like folks dressed like gang members, drug addicts or just plain suspicious people. The folks I've noticed who are carrying have been noticed simply by accident, as in they just happen to print or catch a glimpse of a holster as I'm looking in that direction. Doesn't happen often. I don't care to be observant of normal looking folks who may or may not being carrying.