Leaderboard

grammar actually

So am I. I hear over and over, in every election, that if you don't vote for X then you are voting for Y, even if you vote for Z. That is total bull. It could just as easily be said that any vote that isn't for Obama is a vote for Romney so that should make these guys happy, right? In fact, I have heard that same line of bull crap in every election since I've been old enough to vote. C'mon, guys, get some new material, already. The old, 'use scare tactics to convince people to vote for our guy even against their own consciences' nonsense is worn out, tired and needs to be tossed on the scrap heap. Honestly, this 'either/or' crap is just another attempt to keep us firmly entrenched in a two party system. Will a third party candidate win this election? Chances are slim to none and slim just left town - but as long as people fear to vote their conscience rather than doggedly voting for a Repocrat they don't really even like just so that darned Dempublican doesn't win then we are never going to get anything but what we deserve - the same, old crap from the DempoRepublicrat party. See, what the Republicans and Dems have finally done is that they each have a candidate that I view as equally bad. In the past, I have generally held my nose and voted for the one of the two, big party candidates that I believed was the least bad (sometimes that was a Republican and sometimes that has been a Democrat.) I have voted for an alternate candidate in a few state or local elections but in the presidential elections I have, thus far, forced myself to choose the least bad candidate from the Republican or Democrat side. There is no least bad this time - or at least not enough difference to convince me it really matters. I won't say that I'd rather see Obama re-elected than see Romney win (although that would give the R's a chance to get it right in 2016 rather than trying to re-elect Romney) but I honestly feel strongly enough against both of them that I don't feel much differently about Romney winning than I do about Obama being re-elected.

Tell me how the "conservative " supreme court justices are helping at the moment? Scalia just came out and said new gun laws could be constitutional and what's his name screwed us on the health care ruling. I don't think the world will end when obummer gets his second term but continuing to vote the the Republican nominee just because he has an R next to his name isn't the answer.

I am none of those things Sir, and I take your accusations as a personal attack. I'm actually very open minded. So open minded that I see this debate from both sides and determined there is really no debate to be had. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It doesn't mean you have to accept it, but to be truly open minded you should "tolerate" it. I am tolerant of all opinions, even the opinion of the owner which I happen to disagree with. What I am intolerant of is folks like you that level accusations and cast stones because you simply don't agree. I have a feeling you wouldn't do that in person to anyone, because you'd be going through life getting punched in the face regularly. Since you're here spouting off at the mouth I can only assume that you haven't had the humility-inducing event of getting a good punch in the mouth. That tells me something very clearly: you are a coward. If you wouldn't be willing to say to my face what you just said here then you are, indeed, a pants wetting coward.

A true conservative wouldn't vote for Romney. This " a vote for anybody but my guy is a vote for evil satan" is truly getting old. You could also say that anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a vote for Romney. Does that make you feel better?

Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is the cowards way out, in my humble opinion. Just like I refuse to reward negative behavior of my child's, no matter how inconvenienced I may be, I refuse to reward either of these lying scum with my vote for the presidency. I am prepared for this downward spiral which our country is in to come to a crashing and burning end. I am convinced the only way we will once again become a great nation is to start over from scratch. I am prepared and unafraid. I refuse to set aside my convictions for fear of evil, the lesser or otherwise. We, as spoiled Americans, have allowed our once great nation to be overtaken by the devil of many disguises. Now it is our duty to bring her back. You'll not convince me that continuing down the same roads will accomplish that goal. We cannot continue to treat our elections as a 'may the best liar win', contest. And that is exactly what a majority of you are doing. You look just as stupid as the asshats you are voting for. As I think I've said in the past, at this point in time, I am certain many of you would vote for a convicted child molester, if you thought it would be best way to keep Obama from getting re-elected.

If Hussein stays in power after the election, this issue will surely come to life again.

The term used is really of the least amount of importance. Civil union, legal union, or marriage. Call it what ever you want but people in committed long term intimate relationships are being denied equal treatment under the law. Most of the gay people i know really wouldn't care less what you titled it. And a lot of it really is the simple things, like being considered immediate family when visiting a partner in the hospital or sharing of health benefits. The military presents a unique issue in regards to housing and relocation. I would really like one good argument to be presented against gay marriage that isn't rooted in religious beliefs. I'm not saying that to insult someones beliefs, but the reality is we are not a faith based nation. Like many social problems our nation is facing there has got to be some room in here for a compromise. Unfortunately it will not happen until people from both extremes get off their high horse and meet somewhere in the middle. As far as chick-fil-a is concerned their opinion should still be a non issue, Although i don't agree with them i do not see it as bigotry. choosing to support or not support them harms no one either way. The general hate and idiocy spread by both sides hurts us all

I know my vote doesnt mean Much , But its one less vote that wouldve been virtually guaranteed to the GOP a few years back who knows maybe this will wake them up and force them to make better decisions I doubt it seeing as choosing Mcain last time didnt change their ways I guess they will just keep picking loosers that we dont want and the majority of us will side with them anyway but I for one Will not blindly give my vote to the publicans again

That notice has been up for months I believe, could be wrong. Either way whatever excuse they used it's not right just to put you off like that. I had a problem a month or so ago where a guy came in and bought a Palmetto AR from us. He got home and realized that the rifle he bought should have come with a flip-up rear sight that it did not have with it. Come to find out later the model he bought was supposed to be a flattop and not with sights, but we threw in the sight anyway. Why? Cause it's worth more than a flip up rear sight to us to have a happy customer, than a mad one. Word of mouth is far stronger than most people give it credit.

Yeah, I figured out how it works back in a couple of previous lessor of two evils threads when all my posts had the little red negative number below. I was just inferring that perhaps you were, based on a quick analysis of the number of posts you "voted" on. If I was incorrect, then my apologies and thanks for trying to come to the rescue of us folks who get -1s all the time. I obviously live or die by how other's view my crazy ideas/views and that's why I temper them so much.

I used to feel the same way till they put a Proven gun grabber up for their nomination ,Things have changed its no longer dem vs rep it destroyer vs destroyer period sorry but nothing Ive seen can convince me that both party's aren't out to destroy this country of course to there way of thinking they are out to control this country what we need is someone to spend time probably an entire term trying to reverse some of The Crap that has been done in the past but we will never have that its all a control game and who do you want to control us more I personally am sick of being controlled and will try to vote for someone who can Lead us in the right direction Not Force us to follow theirs . Im not saying GJ will win all Im saying is if he doesnt we will be stuck in this vicious loop till the entire thing falls apart no matter which Party is in control.

Absolutely! I will not support the Republican party until they present a decent candidate, and not "some guy who isn't Obama".

NOT capable of success. Like trying to take down Coca Cola with a lemonade stand. It could be damn good lemonade too. Doesn't matter.

You're gonna survive. You may be living on turnip greens and single shot rifles, but you'll survive.

To me, yes it is. And on top of that, I'm pretty tired of folks trying to "guilt" others into voting for someone just to keep someone else out of office.

Wow, what a broad brushstroke. Look no further regarding ignorance, intolerance and bigotry than your own mirror.

Many times the root cause is drugs, either needing money for a fix or being so high they claimed that they didn’t know what they were doing. I understand you aren’t going to buy that under any circumstances, that’s fine; it’s just a discussion. Yes, alcohol is a dangerous drug; it has been the root cause for the death of many innocent people. In my observations as a Police Officer I would say it is a worse drug than pot. I’m sure there are people on this forum that have lost loved ones due to alcohol. But I couldn’t care less about pot; I’m talking about narcotics. These are my firsthand observations as having been a Police Officer and responding to the aftermath of criminals that needed a fix, or were out of control. I have seen firsthand the effects it has on people, I have had to take to them jail after they have committed their acts, and had to notify the families of the dead. I’ve also seen the arrested crying in jail about how it was the drugs after being told what they did. So yes, the drugs are the root cause in many cases and if you don’t maintain drug enforcement you will be sending a message to a whole new generations that drugs are okay. I agree with you that alcohol is bad, but I fail to see the connection between prohibition and allowing illegal drugs. Many people use alcohol as a recreational drug and don’t have problem. Many people are addicted to alcohol and it destroys their lives, and sometimes the lives of innocent bystanders. Are those the reasons you are using to justify allowing the use of crack, methamphetamine, or heroin? So we are in agreement…. Alcohol is bad. The fact it is legal doesn’t justify making those other drugs legal.

Guy jumps off the Empire State Building. As he dropped by each floor, folks heard him saying, "So far, so good!"

At least they're in a state where they probably can't hurt anything. BTW... guess y'all notced that Maggart got her ass whipped

Any vote that isn't for Romney is a vote for Obama. Regardless of your opinion, what you have to ask is, are you so willing to prove your unhappiness that you would squander your vote and allow Obama to be the president for another four years. I really don't see what is so hard to understand about this, it is simple math. 4 votes. 2 for Obama, 1 for Romney, 1 for Mickey Mouse. You voted Mickey Mouse to show your displeasure of the system, and Obama just won by 25% of the vote.

Come on down to Polk county with that purdy mouth.

Whatever the opposite of brains is he has a "cache" of them.

He was a good kid though. Good kid. I often dream of the old days when a kid would NOT have been arrested for this. The cops woulda just got out and whooped his ass and told him "WHen ya get done bleedin', go home and don't let me see you again."

Idiots obviously. Or if you're a liberal, unmarked police cars. See if he knew it was a cop car, and wasn't a misguided youth this never would have happened. So by that logic we need to ban unmarked cop cars.

It has to start somewhere. You expect >40% to just pop out of nowhere overnight? What does the constant belittling of voting third party forment?

Oh, I agree with your statement 100% and have said as much throughout this thread. Or at least tried to express that. I was more implying that it takes a paradigm shift in ones thinking to see another persons viewpoint sometimes. While I may believe that I am correct in my view, I cannot decide for another person what is correct in their view.

I don't know just what justification(s) will be used, only that it's bound to happen. Might even get triggered from a minor case example: like two guys or women of rank in military not being allowed to set up housekeeping on military base like married couples can. Can now be openly gay in military, but still can't receive same privileges as non gay. Maybe compounded by being stationed in a state which allows same sex marriage. Who knows? Eventually the federal government will either have to cave and dictate national change for civil unions (without the term "marriage"); or go the other way and decree it to be only between a man and a woman. The second option will take a constitutional amendment though, IMO. - OS

It' been my experience that what you are responding to is a fairly typical libertarian view which is one of the reasons why true libertarians an true conservatives don't really get along...their views are similar, up to a point but then diverge significantly.

Hard to say. Letereat's second ban created one of the best TGO threads of all time

It would have happened a little while ago if TMF was able to crawl through his computer .

I couldn't agree more with the comments already posted. The Second Amendment issues in all fairness takes back seat to how she totally sabotaged the process. I don't know what the actual General Assembly rules say but if there is not something to address how the Calendar committee totally went outside their authority, there certainly should be. The work certainly is not over. Now we have to support Courtney Rogers in the general election. This should send a message to the other members of the Republican caucus that the gun owners in this state do not appreciate being stabbed in the back. With one leg of Beth Harwell's support knocked out, we now need to be sure our respective representatives KNOW that support for Beth Harwell for Speaker will not be acceptable. I know they use a secret ballot to choose the Speaker and we will never know who exactly votes for or against her, but if she makes it in again, then it will be time to take aim at another of her supporters in the next election. It is time to take no prisioners. I too wish I could have voted for Courtney but I did go to Hendersonville to walk through neighborhoods and knock on doors for her. That is the best I could do.

The title says for the Libertarians planning on writing in Ron Paul hmmm But I knew the moment all my post started receiving -1's that you had arrived

No, but you can beat it with a dummy stick!

It has gotten old and stale.

The difference, my friend, is what those various things do to those who use them, to those immediately around them and to society itself.It's been both my observation and the conclusion based on looking at the issue that there is a much larger "cost" to narcotics use and abuse than can be measured in dollars alone. They are often not easy to quantify but that doesn't negate that they exist. Leaving any "moral" considerations out of it for the moment, in a sealed environment where absolutely no one else can be negatively impacted, I don't give a flying you-know-what about what anybody does to themselves. However, narcotics use very often (I believe usually) doesn't just impact only that one individual and since it does not, society has the right and I would submit, the duty and obligation to act.

I appreciate the "series reviews," but I'd like to focus on this segment ONLY, please.

I agree. I was one of those guys under "W". I thought that we were done for. If it did'nt happen under "W", it won't happen anytime soon.

Irrelevant third party voter checking in here. One more vote for Obama. Long live the king! I know that this is a not a gambling site, but I'm willing to bet that America will still be around in four years regardless which of these ducks wins the election. It may be better, it may be worse, but it will be what we have allowed it to become because we are so loyal to the crooked two party system. Are those chickens that I see returning home?

pwned!!!

That should be a reality check for some. I saw that first episode a few weeks ago. Powerful way to open a show. I think that America is still a great country, but it is filled with lousy, self absorbed, lazy and hateful people with no compassion or vision for the furture. You get what you put out there.

Prove what? Are you going to stop insulting and act like an adult?

While I don't find the delivery very appealing, there's not a thing he said that I can disagree with.

Some of the sentiment in this thread makes me think we live in the worst country ever and soon we will devolve into something just slightly better than Ethiopia where we don't have clean water and dig through dumps for food. If Obama wins sure it could change the scope of our liberties and I'm not ok with that, but most of us are going to continue living a decent life regardless. Maybe some without jobs or struggling, but as a society we'll still thrive. I'm voting Romney because I DO think the supreme court matters and I do think he can help the economy. But I don't buy Appoclypse Now under any candidate.

I have an old CRKT Crawford/Kasper folder that's seen a lot of hard use and abuse that's in my pocket as I type this. They're inexpensive, durable, and very serviceable. Very positive grip and fast into use. I'm also wearing my Clinchpik...it's been a constant companion for a number of years now. It is strictly a self defense tool. My knife at work (wearing scrubs) is a waved Griptillian. No belt, so no Clinchpik. I like it's ease of opening and edge retention. Great grip and blade shape as well. My working in the garden knife is a carbon steel Mora. They are inexpensive, yet durable knives that take a great edge.

Prez Zero will get at least 40% of the vote. That leaves 60% to split between Romney, Johnson, Paul write-ins and Mickey Mouse. If Romney loses as much as 21%, you won't have another four years to build a third party because I don't think we'll see another free election.

It would be just the thing for someone starting a prison sentence.

Although this is partly a free-speech issue, if the subject wasn't gay marriage, almost no one would be showing this kind of support. If the CEO of C-F-A said that he believed Chevy was better than Ford and pissed off the Ford lovers, no one would be waiting in line to show support for his 1A right. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

What ever happend to " dont judge lest you want to be judged? Either way.. I dont care what they think of gays. Was never fond of their food anyway.

The car musta been a Chevrolet. Otherwise any intelligent person would have STARTED the car and drive off.