I have no idea what to think about this new FEMA youth Army.

[TripleDigitRide]

[quote name='ThePunisher' timestamp='1354394592' post='853462']The ones that are in denial will be the ones that will gladly turn in their guns to the fast approaching tyrannical government. And they don't learn these real history lessons about tyranny in public schools anymore. They read pro-socialist material in schools today.[/quote]

Yeah, while the rest just piss and moan on the internet.

It's amazing to me how sure some are that our country is headed towards a Nazi Germany era government, but the only solution they come up with is to bitch about it on the internet. Oh, and the wild fantasy that you can simply vote your way out of it. Only if the Jews could have bitched on the internet and voted for such change...
Edited December 1, 2012 by TripleDigitRide

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That particular article is embellished a bit, but the basic content I saw on Drudge, the other day. It also had a picture of
some "graduates" holding AR-15/ M4's with red tips for flash hiders. It was a similar article, but the content wasn't the
funny part, just the picture, and it could lead one to think about the point where those red tips might not be on the weapons.

The administration has been open, notorious and hostile, to a degree, about this stuff, and they are dishing it out more
than just gradually, now. I don't see that much [b]B[/b]arbara [b]S[/b]treisand in it, at all.

Just like Trek quoted, it's all been on the record.

[dunndw]

Cannon fodder...brownshirts....I can think of a lot more things they can be called but I'll keep my mouth shut

[Guest ThePunisher]

[quote name='dunndw' timestamp='1354399297' post='853498']
Cannon fodder...brownshirts....I can think of a lot more things they can be called but I'll keep my mouth shut
[/quote]

Oh come on, don't be reticent.

[mcurrier]

[quote name='TripleDigitRide' timestamp='1354397975' post='853489']
Yeah, while the rest just piss and moan on the internet.

It's amazing to me how sure some are that our country is headed towards a Nazi Germany era government, but the only solution they come up with is to bitch about it on the internet. Oh, and the wild fantasy that you can simply vote your way out of it. Only if the Jews could have bitched on the internet and voted for such change...
[/quote]That which you call pissing, moaning and bitching, others may call spreading the word on what is going on so that hopefully others will be aware. Was Paul Revere pissing, moaning and bitching?

[Mike.357]

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1354398599' post='853491']
That particular article is embellished a bit, but the basic content I saw on Drudge, the other day. It also had a picture of
some "graduates" holding AR-15/ M4's with red tips for flash hiders. It was a similar article, but the content wasn't the
funny part, just the picture, and it could lead one to think about the point where those red tips might not be on the weapons.

[/quote]



a little research reveals that the picture of the young men/boys with rifles are Boy Scouts, not Obama's secret army.

Yep Boy Scouts . holding airsoft guns. Sends chills up my spine.

[Links2k]

When Obama leaves office in a few years are the tin foil crazies going to disband like a flash mob?

[TripleDigitRide]

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1354419602' post='853676']When Obama leaves office in a few years are the tin foil crazies going to disband like a flash mob?[/quote]

If another democrat wins, it will be much of the same around here. If a republican wins, the leftist forums will be hoarding all the foil.

[Reservoir Dog]

[quote name='Mike.357' timestamp='1354418470' post='853671']


a little research reveals that the picture of the young men/boys with rifles are Boy Scouts, not Obama's secret army.

Yep Boy Scouts . holding airsoft guns. Sends chills up my spine.
[/quote]

The truth does not matter, only what fits their conspiracy mindset. They [i][b]want[/b][/i] to see "Obama's civilian army," so that what they see. They [i][b]want[/b][/i] to see DHS/FEMA as the "shadow government," so that is what they see. FEMA can't even do what it was created to do (responding to disasters, a la Hurricane Katrina), yet they are somehow supposed to train, arm and equip a vast civilian army to enslave the American populace in their camps. The ignorance is so bad, it's funny.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1354419602' post='853676']
When Obama leaves office in a few years are the tin foil crazies going to disband like a flash mob?
[/quote]

Oh, how I wish they would. However, all this FEMA conspiracy crap has been around long before Obama, and it will continue long after Obama is gone. The administration may change, but the tinfoil remains the same.

[Guest ThePunisher]

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1354419602' post='853676']
When Obama leaves office in a few years are the tin foil crazies going to disband like a flash mob?
[/quote]

Haven't you heard that Obama is already planning on a third term. The sheeple loves him so much that he thinks that they want to keep him in the WH forever.

[TrickyNicky]

[quote name='ThePunisher' timestamp='1354423122' post='853702']


Haven't you heard that Obama is already planning on a third term. The sheeple loves him so much that he thinks that they want to keep him in the WH forever.
[/quote]

It's funny, the only people I've heard that from are you and a few others on this forum. It's almost like you guys WANT these things to happen. Maybe some people crave the validation of their sour grape delusions?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Obama fan by any stretch of the imagination but my reasonings are based firmly in reality, at least to my way of thinking. Fiscal matters along with a terrible foriegn policy are ACTUALLY happening, our nation is actually becoming more and more divided on a day to day basis.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to be upset about the current administration, all these delusional rumblings do nothing more than distract from the real issues which do not include some kind of Hitler youth type civilian army.

IMO.

[TMF]

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1354398599' post='853491']That particular article is embellished a bit, but the basic content I saw on Drudge, the other day. It also had a picture of
some "graduates" holding AR-15/ M4's with red tips for flash hiders. It was a similar article, but the content wasn't the
funny part, just the picture, and it could lead one to think about the point where those red tips might not be on the weapons.

The administration has been open, notorious and hostile, to a degree, about this stuff, and they are dishing it out more
than just gradually, now. I don't see that much [b]B[/b]arbara [b]S[/b]treisand in it, at all.

Just like Trek quoted, it's all been on the record.[/quote]

Aww, c'mon! You're smart enough to see past the BS here. There is nothing but emotion and speculation. I can go to a truck stop on I-24 and take pictures of armored vehicles on flatbeds and then go to a boy scout jamboree and take photos of uniformed eagle scouts firing AR-15s, then write a scary article with "Hitler" in it and get at least 100,000 website hits. This is the kinda tinfoil garbage that makes the good tinfoil garbage look bad.

[Guest ThePunisher]

[quote name='TrickyNicky' timestamp='1354425343' post='853711']


It's funny, the only people I've heard that from are you and a few others on this forum. It's almost like you guys WANT these things to happen. Maybe some people crave the validation of their sour grape delusions?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Obama fan by any stretch of the imagination but my reasonings are based firmly in reality, at least to my way of thinking. Fiscal matters along with a terrible foriegn policy are ACTUALLY happening, our nation is actually becoming more and more divided on a day to day basis.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to be upset about the current administration, all these delusional rumblings do nothing more than distract from the real issues which do not include some kind of Hitler youth type civilian army.

IMO.
[/quote]

Maybe you ought to expand your current event readings. There's been articles written about his grandiose desires of extending his stay in the WH since his re-election. Google Obama's third term and become more informed before making accusations. I don't make these things up.There was another liberal President that once had three terms in our history.

And yes I admit that I'm not a groveler of the Marxist like some here, but I have not had my head in the sand the last 4 years as to not know Obama is not your traditional democrat of past, but a full fledged Marxist that doesn't have America's best interest at heart. Maybe you would know that Obama is a Marxist if only you would quit watching CNN or MSNBC or quit reading the liberal blogs.

Nothing delusional about what I say. I don't drink the Obama kool-aid. Edited December 2, 2012 by ThePunisher

[TrickyNicky]

CNN? Liberal blogs? Who's the one making the accusations here?

You can read as much crazy crapolla as you like. If you honestly believe in Obamas third term then you calling me uninformed is the kettle talking to the pot.

Crazier things have happened in the world but I personaly won't waste much thought on the subject, remember Dubbaya was going to declare martial law and retain the presidency too...

Doesn't all that foil get expensive?

[Guest ThePunisher]

[quote name='TrickyNicky' timestamp='1354434195' post='853727']
CNN? Liberal blogs? Who's the one making the accusations here?

You can read as much crazy crapolla as you like. If you honestly believe in Obamas third term then you calling me uninformed is the kettle talking to the pot.

Crazier things have happened in the world but I personaly won't waste much thought on the subject, remember Dubbaya was going to declare martial law and retain the presidency too...

Doesn't all that foil get expensive?
[/quote]

You obviously didn't bother to Google the Obama third term articles. No tin foil on my head. I didn't create this stuff up. Again read before making accusations.

[Guest Fingersoup]

[quote name='DaveTN' timestamp='1354320430' post='853138']
If that is real....18-24 is not a “Youth Army” and they are not “Kids” . At 17 I was active duty in the Navy during Vietnam, by 24 I had done 4 years active duty, a year in the ANG and was a full time Police Officer.

Where is all this money to start a new “Obama Police Force” coming from?
[/quote]

[size=4]EDIT: I meant to say, most of our money 'comes off' digital 'printing presses'.. Fiat money[/size]. Edited December 4, 2012 by Fingersoup

[Reservoir Dog]

[quote name='ThePunisher' timestamp='1354437341' post='853729']
You obviously didn't bother to Google the Obama third term articles. No tin foil on my head. I didn't create this stuff up. Again read before making accusations.
[/quote]

No, other people created that stuff up......................out of thin air.

I looked up and read the articles, and wish I had those minutes of my life back. All I see is people like Alex Jones, Porter Stansberry, and Joseph Farah pushing this tripe. Basically, you have ignorant fool Birthers and 9/11 Truthers concocting yet another conspiracy theory to feed the group of other ignorant fools who follow them. Hell, last year, Stansberry was predicting that Obama would be the end of America, would lead this country to disaster, and there would be destruction and riots. Now he is predicting that Obama will lead this country to unprecedented prosperity that catapult him to a third term.

Honestly, I fail to see how anyone with an ounce of intelligence can believe this stuff.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I said I thought all of those pictures were embellishments, to those who didn't pay attention. I also pointed out
only the tyranny for the possible outcome. If you wish to make this into conspiracy theory, fine. I pointed out,
with help, that this is part of an open agenda on the record. Make of that what you wish, but try to remember
your history before you go and label it as trash.

The "Hitler" reference I used is obvious if you go back to pre-WWII Nazi Germany and recall how he rose to power.
There are very strong similarities there and it doesn't take any leap at all to see facism rising. I've tried to show it
for what it is and if you wish to call tyranny a conspiracy tinfoil theory, okay.

Yeh, some of this sounds hokey as Hell, but remember what happened in maybe different circumstances to the
Jews in Germany. Think about Iran in WWII. Pol Pot. The millions in China who were killed. The millions Stalin
killed. The trend we're heading toward is roughly the same kind of outcome. What was it Khruschev said? Something
like "we will take you over from within". We are blindly allowing it. Our economy will probably be the precursor to the
fall and things could get real bad fast, with martial law stepping in to control us and I can see there will be some who
will actually embrace that idea as something needed due to the times.

Cause and effect. Some of you don't have a clue how dangerous several of our politicians actually are, on both sides
of the aisle.

There certainly is a lot of "crazy crapola" out there, but history is repeating itself without very many realizing it. I don't
see that "third term" stuff as very plausible, just don't know how that would be allowed, but if there is a crash, maybe.
The way our constitution has been shredded, recently, you never know. what would our country look like after an
economic crash? Ever been there? I haven't. That problem in 2008 was probably a precursor to something right around
the corner we don't want to think about.

[Trekbike]

[quote name='Reservoir Dog' timestamp='1354464817' post='853785']
Honestly, I fail to see how anyone with an ounce of intelligence can believe this stuff.
[/quote]

I'm not specifically speaking of the article that started this thread, but I'm smart enough to know that I don't trust our government and am not naive enough to think that events that have happened to other countries can't happen in the US.

[Commando68]

It is truly a disgrace that this anti colonial, anti American Exceptionalism, anti military student of karl marx and cloward piven has been elected to the white house AGAIN. It make us the laughing stock of the world. He took Hitlers advice to get the youth first. Don't think for a minute the "cult of personality youth" will not do his bidding when the time comes. Read Orwells 1984. It's like to old fable about the frog carrying the scorpion across the river w/the promise the scorpion wouldn't sting the frog. When the scorpion stung the frog, the frog asked "why did you sting me?" The scorpion replied "because I am a scorpion, stupid". The american idol generation, the spineless, american sheeple represent the frog. The kenyan in chief is the scorpion. Just think about the conversations he must have with that lovely bill of rights advocate and promoter of racial equality wife of his at night. How stupid he must think the american sheeple are. It would be priceless to hear the dialougue. They must really, really laugh themselves to sleep at the apathy and ignorance of the flock. He is doing everything in his power to destroy this country from the inside out and the socialists are cheering him on. Again, we are no longer the land of the free and home of the brave. We are land of the sheep and home of the slaves. Slaves very comfortorable in their chains by the way. Pitiful, just pitiful.

[TripleDigitRide]

No that we know we're doomed, which one of you have the solution? That was the point of my previous post in this tread.

I see folks endlessly pointing out reasons why we are going to be carted off to concentration camps any day now, but I'm not seeing any solutions to prevent this from happening. Obviously voting hasn't worked, so, what now?

[Commando68]

Secession of the libertarian states. Nullification of all unconstitutional laws including ALL federal gun laws at the state level.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

We're not doomed. Our government is the one doomed and we are going to pay a price for it. It depends on how
long we allow the government to continue. After the last election, we have two years to get something back in the
senate to try to put the brakes on. If that doesn't work, it could get nasty. I don't have another answer, but I know
the federal government is and has been going the wrong way for way too long. It is our job to elect people to do our
will, not the government's.

We own this problem and we have to fix it.

[TripleDigitRide]

[quote name='Commando68' timestamp='1354469994' post='853816']Secession of the libertarian states. Nullification of all unconstitutional laws including ALL federal gun laws at the state level.[/quote]

That's all fine and dandy, but those type of solutions don't work with Hitler-type dictators.

[TrickyNicky]

[quote name='Reservoir Dog' timestamp='1354464817' post='853785']


No, other people created that stuff up......................out of thin air.

I looked up and read the articles, and wish I had those minutes of my life back. All I see is people like Alex Jones, Porter Stansberry, and Joseph Farah pushing this tripe. Basically, you have ignorant fool Birthers and 9/11 Truthers concocting yet another conspiracy theory to feed the group of other ignorant fools who follow them. Hell, last year, Stansberry was predicting that Obama would be the end of America, would lead this country to disaster, and there would be destruction and riots. Now he is predicting that Obama will lead this country to unprecedented prosperity that catapult him to a third term.

Honestly, I fail to see how anyone with an ounce of intelligence can believe this stuff.
[/quote]

My point exactly. You said it better than I could and for that I thank you.

I'm starting to think that some of the detractors are actually secret Obamabots. What better way to have the actual issues glossed over and gone unnoticed than to shove a bunch of attention grabbing crap under everyone's noses?